
STOP If You Do This YOU'RE GETTING CHARGES Rent Freeze, Kristen Bell, Coronavirus Relief, Maduro
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Date: 2020-03-27
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Bodgerton
18: 17 I think you may have missed a critical, scary point to this story Phil. The Monroe Doctrine dictates that the United States would act through military intervention if European powers meddle in the affairs of American Nations, and the Roosevelt Corollary adds that this would include 'Chronic Wrongdoing or Impotence by any South American nation's leadership. This was most often initiated by the United States in the protection of any American interest, but so far there has never been standing to enter a nation without the leadership's specific and direct request for help from the US Military, something South American leaders are hesitant to do, and has not been done in Venezuela to date, limiting Venezuelan President Juan Guaido's ask of the US Military to Strategic Planning' help. This new declaration by the US Government turns everything on it's head. This makes Maduro's actions a direct act of war that impacts the American people with weaponized shipments. While I have no love for Maduro and his regime, this is a very reckless bending of the language surrounding the current standing relationship between the US people and the Venezuelan government that I am positive will be cited as a basis for the deployment of troops without request of the Democratically Elected Leader of that Nation. The United States now, legally speaking of course, can cite Theodore Roosevelt's corollary as a basis for unilateral action in Venezuela, with or without Guaido's request. We are very likely to see this in the near future, but complicating matters, the typical response of people flooding the streets in protest maybe compromised if this does happen due in large part to the Corona virus Isolation and illness. I don't know whats going to happen in the next few weeks, but it looks like a deployment is on the horizon. The government may say they will place Venezuela under protectorate status only, but who knows how long that would be, Afghanistan has been going on for 19 years
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18: 17 I think you may have missed a critical, scary point to this story Phil. The Monroe Doctrine dictates that the United States would act through military intervention if European powers meddle in the affairs of American Nations, and the Roosevelt Corollary adds that this would include 'Chronic Wrongdoing or Impotence by any South American nation's leadership. This was most often initiated by the United States in the protection of any American interest, but so far there has never been standing to enter a nation without the leadership's specific and direct request for help from the US Military, something South American leaders are hesitant to do, and has not been done in Venezuela to date, limiting Venezuelan President Juan Guaido's ask of the US Military to Strategic Planning' help. This new declaration by the US Government turns everything on it's head. This makes Maduro's actions a direct act of war that impacts the American people with weaponized shipments. While I have no love for Maduro and his regime, this is a very reckless bending of the language surrounding the current standing relationship between the US people and the Venezuelan government that I am positive will be cited as a basis for the deployment of troops without request of the Democratically Elected Leader of that Nation. The United States now, legally speaking of course, can cite Theodore Roosevelt's corollary as a basis for unilateral action in Venezuela, with or without Guaido's request. We are very likely to see this in the near future, but complicating matters, the typical response of people flooding the streets in protest maybe compromised if this does happen due in large part to the Corona virus Isolation and illness. I don't know whats going to happen in the next few weeks, but it looks like a deployment is on the horizon. The government may say they will place Venezuela under protectorate status only, but who knows how long that would be, Afghanistan has been going on for 19 years
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Wylie
So about the rent thing, I can honestly see both sides. Even for landlords who have gotten mortgage relief, they do still have other bills and need to buy stuff like food. Not all landlords have 10s of properties and thousands of dollars saved back. I mean, i very obvisoly understand understand bbn other end too. I'm just playing devil's advocate, and more so, pointing out that the entire coronavirus situation is a pretty bad one. There is no winning. There is no good outcome for this. There are only bad scenarios and worse scenarios. Do ten thousand people die or 10 million. Dise the homeless population grow by a lot or dose it only grow a little. Will the economy recover within a year or will ot take decades. Will evil laws and legislation around the world be pushed through and human rights stripped a little or just a lot. Will people look back to this as a time where we all banded together and humanity showed that it can do a lot of good I'm the face of adversity, or will this be seen as one of humanity's darkest moments where we failed to understand the implications and ramifications of our actions. This is our time to decide how the history books will remember the people of earth now; How people remember humanity as a whole in the face if the greatest pandemic modern man has yet seen. It is up to each and every one of us as individuals, the great scientists and medical workers and volunteers, and the leaders of the world at large and small scales, to decide the outcome of this. This can be humanity's darkest moment ir one of our brightest. Either way, it is up to you, myself, and every person to decide how we are remembered and how this turns out
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So about the rent thing, I can honestly see both sides. Even for landlords who have gotten mortgage relief, they do still have other bills and need to buy stuff like food. Not all landlords have 10s of properties and thousands of dollars saved back. I mean, i very obvisoly understand understand bbn other end too. I'm just playing devil's advocate, and more so, pointing out that the entire coronavirus situation is a pretty bad one. There is no winning. There is no good outcome for this. There are only bad scenarios and worse scenarios. Do ten thousand people die or 10 million. Dise the homeless population grow by a lot or dose it only grow a little. Will the economy recover within a year or will ot take decades. Will evil laws and legislation around the world be pushed through and human rights stripped a little or just a lot. Will people look back to this as a time where we all banded together and humanity showed that it can do a lot of good I'm the face of adversity, or will this be seen as one of humanity's darkest moments where we failed to understand the implications and ramifications of our actions. This is our time to decide how the history books will remember the people of earth now; How people remember humanity as a whole in the face if the greatest pandemic modern man has yet seen. It is up to each and every one of us as individuals, the great scientists and medical workers and volunteers, and the leaders of the world at large and small scales, to decide the outcome of this. This can be humanity's darkest moment ir one of our brightest. Either way, it is up to you, myself, and every person to decide how we are remembered and how this turns out
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Armando
18: 04 as venezuela, we cant protest we are in complete lockdown, and even my state Zulia, is complete without gasoline, all the gasoline its been traffic by the military and the goverment to be used as they want. we have curtfew after 2PM and nobody cant outside because they can just lock you up until they want it, theres not LAW in venezuela other that the goverment wanna do. with this pandemic venezuela will be the biggest losser, TBH probably too many people will die in venezuela, in here we dont have hospital system, no medicines not nothings, people on the street try to protected themself but the reality its we have other pandemic in venezuela like, dengue, colera, zika, chincunculla, listeria, malaria and the goverment forced hospital to not disclaim stats about this desease. we will never know the real scale of death due to COVID-19 in venezuela but wont be pretty. my mom its a olderly person with 4-5 preexisting conditions that make her super vulnerable if she get it she will most likely to die.
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18: 04 as venezuela, we cant protest we are in complete lockdown, and even my state Zulia, is complete without gasoline, all the gasoline its been traffic by the military and the goverment to be used as they want. we have curtfew after 2PM and nobody cant outside because they can just lock you up until they want it, theres not LAW in venezuela other that the goverment wanna do. with this pandemic venezuela will be the biggest losser, TBH probably too many people will die in venezuela, in here we dont have hospital system, no medicines not nothings, people on the street try to protected themself but the reality its we have other pandemic in venezuela like, dengue, colera, zika, chincunculla, listeria, malaria and the goverment forced hospital to not disclaim stats about this desease. we will never know the real scale of death due to COVID-19 in venezuela but wont be pretty. my mom its a olderly person with 4-5 preexisting conditions that make her super vulnerable if she get it she will most likely to die.
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Carrie
As a long time grocery/retail worker, society is finally seeing people like me as hard-working, valuable members of society, instead of ignorant losers who haven't managed to do anything better with their lives. I'm not sure what to think. It's nice to finally get some respect, but I'm also angry. Why did it take a global pandemic to be treated decently by customers? When this is over, go find a friend who works in the service industry. Have them walk you through their day in detail. Listen to what goes into stocking shelves, running a cash register, dealing with a line of people all day, keeping produce fresh and looking nice. What is it like to be a bagger, to make every picky customer happy while going outside in all kinds of weather? None of it is easy. So I say we try to treat everyone with decency, kindness, and patience, remembering that we're all humans trying to get through life the best we can. Thank you for listening.
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As a long time grocery/retail worker, society is finally seeing people like me as hard-working, valuable members of society, instead of ignorant losers who haven't managed to do anything better with their lives. I'm not sure what to think. It's nice to finally get some respect, but I'm also angry. Why did it take a global pandemic to be treated decently by customers? When this is over, go find a friend who works in the service industry. Have them walk you through their day in detail. Listen to what goes into stocking shelves, running a cash register, dealing with a line of people all day, keeping produce fresh and looking nice. What is it like to be a bagger, to make every picky customer happy while going outside in all kinds of weather? None of it is easy. So I say we try to treat everyone with decency, kindness, and patience, remembering that we're all humans trying to get through life the best we can. Thank you for listening.
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Leo
Throw out 35k of food in a time when there's a shortage because someone who may not have had the virus coughed over it? That's ridiculous. Firstly, deny service to anyone coughing in the store, if possible tell them you'll gather their shopping for them so they can minimize their exposure but still get what they need. It's irresponsible for them to be coughing without covering their mouth. Secondly, clean what it's plausible. Stuff that's going to be cooked is probably still okay as long as it's hot and long enough. Possibly test her for the virus and hold the products until the results come back if the shelf life is long enough. Finally, she's liable for any incurred loss of profit and possibly the impact of the inability of people to get the supplies they need, if her actions cause a shortage. Throwing out that much food shows a wasteful mentality of presumed surplus.
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Throw out 35k of food in a time when there's a shortage because someone who may not have had the virus coughed over it? That's ridiculous. Firstly, deny service to anyone coughing in the store, if possible tell them you'll gather their shopping for them so they can minimize their exposure but still get what they need. It's irresponsible for them to be coughing without covering their mouth. Secondly, clean what it's plausible. Stuff that's going to be cooked is probably still okay as long as it's hot and long enough. Possibly test her for the virus and hold the products until the results come back if the shelf life is long enough. Finally, she's liable for any incurred loss of profit and possibly the impact of the inability of people to get the supplies they need, if her actions cause a shortage. Throwing out that much food shows a wasteful mentality of presumed surplus.
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bpowers1984
I am a landlord, when the Ohio stay home order started I told my tenants there will be no late fees. Then when the layoffs started I told my tenants there will be no evictions and to make sure they can eat first, but did explain they will still have to make up rent later. I only owe on one property so the others i will see no assistance with from the government. Being a landlord is one of my jobs and my income. It is not large basically 25K which i still have to pay mortgage, repairs, taxes, some utilities, and insurance out of. So by then my profit is around 7k to 9k. The US is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy so there is no mob rule for forcing more private businesses to basically make no income. There is no right way of fixing our situation right now and this will take time to come back from.
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I am a landlord, when the Ohio stay home order started I told my tenants there will be no late fees. Then when the layoffs started I told my tenants there will be no evictions and to make sure they can eat first, but did explain they will still have to make up rent later. I only owe on one property so the others i will see no assistance with from the government. Being a landlord is one of my jobs and my income. It is not large basically 25K which i still have to pay mortgage, repairs, taxes, some utilities, and insurance out of. So by then my profit is around 7k to 9k. The US is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy so there is no mob rule for forcing more private businesses to basically make no income. There is no right way of fixing our situation right now and this will take time to come back from.
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SangoProductions213
The corona virus might actually be good for the long term. It'll encourage people to pull back on their debt, and have many people realize just how scary it is to have half of your income immediately go to just live in their home. To encourage people to not overreach with their expenses. And with this experience, people will probably be more responsible with debt in the future, which will add a lot of slack in the system. And maybe antivaxxers will learn a thing or two as well. But that might be hoping for too much(I mean, just imagine if no one had debt. This would be a temporary hold up, and things would slow down, but there would be no crisis. I say this as someone who literally earns only 400 dollars a month, but has priced himself properly)
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The corona virus might actually be good for the long term. It'll encourage people to pull back on their debt, and have many people realize just how scary it is to have half of your income immediately go to just live in their home. To encourage people to not overreach with their expenses. And with this experience, people will probably be more responsible with debt in the future, which will add a lot of slack in the system. And maybe antivaxxers will learn a thing or two as well. But that might be hoping for too much(I mean, just imagine if no one had debt. This would be a temporary hold up, and things would slow down, but there would be no crisis. I say this as someone who literally earns only 400 dollars a month, but has priced himself properly)
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Ash
I've been sick with a minor cold recently, but have quarantined myself just in case for about two weeks. During this time, my mom made a trip to Walgreens for me for some essentials. A guy literally walked up and coughed on her. I was sick to my stomach when I heard that, as my mom is almost at retirement age, and her immune system isn't what it used to be. I'm glad they're taking this seriously and charging people that do that horrible shit, because it's terrifying to think someone could purposefully infect someone else. Why would anyone want to be that much of a garbage person? It makes no sense to me at all
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I've been sick with a minor cold recently, but have quarantined myself just in case for about two weeks. During this time, my mom made a trip to Walgreens for me for some essentials. A guy literally walked up and coughed on her. I was sick to my stomach when I heard that, as my mom is almost at retirement age, and her immune system isn't what it used to be. I'm glad they're taking this seriously and charging people that do that horrible shit, because it's terrifying to think someone could purposefully infect someone else. Why would anyone want to be that much of a garbage person? It makes no sense to me at all
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xeroxedkay
One problem with completely halting rent, and not just putting it further off. Is your rent doesn't just cover mortgage, even if you have no bills included. Property taxes, home owners insurance, upkeep. That's what I can think of just off the top of my head, I know my city and county are probably not going to forgive the portion of taxes for the year. Though I completely agree that people should not be getting evicted over this, and at the very least a 'hey we're not charging you now, but you will have to pay eventually' is in order.
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One problem with completely halting rent, and not just putting it further off. Is your rent doesn't just cover mortgage, even if you have no bills included. Property taxes, home owners insurance, upkeep. That's what I can think of just off the top of my head, I know my city and county are probably not going to forgive the portion of taxes for the year. Though I completely agree that people should not be getting evicted over this, and at the very least a 'hey we're not charging you now, but you will have to pay eventually' is in order.
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