This New UK Scandal is a RIDICULOUS FAIL, Jenna Marbles, Fall Guys, Key Missed DNC Moments
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This is part of what has led to the uproar around the mess this year. Students care about these exams enormously. They determine a large part of their future. The government chose not to care about these student's future.
Date: 2020-08-19
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Garrett
In regards to your question about standardized testing, I had actually written a paper, a five-paragraph persuasive essay, about why standardized tests should be forgotten while I was in high school.
The first point I'd like to bring up is the phrase itself, standardized testing. It does not make sense for there to be a standard for testing, because nobody tests quite the same way. It puts students from poor backgrounds and/or schools, neurodivergent students, and students with other accommodations at a severe disadvantage. A former classmate of mine had a rare heart condition that basically made her cold-blooded. She couldn't attend school during the winter months because she'd be at risk of dying from the cold--and we our school was in Wisconsin, one of the coldest states to be in. She had to learn virtually from home while other students were at school, and because of that, she had a harder time keeping up with assignments, tests, projects, and even general attendance because both their internet connection and the school's weren't all too great. I myself am on the autism spectrum, and even though I graduated from high school this past May, I still have my 504 plan in place for college because there are certain accommodations that I needed and will still probably need just to keep myself from drowning in anxiety, since the shift from high school to college will undoubtedly be very difficult for me to get used to. I actually scored fairly high on the ACT, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that I needed accommodations to take the test and do the best that I possibly could have.
My second issue is the time limit. I have no idea why there needs to be a time limit on these types of tests. Sure, it shouldn't take students eight hours to complete it, but having the strict time limit puts pressure and anxiety on students who take longer on tests than others, including myself. The time limit restrained my ability to answer some of the questions, especially ones that required a paragraph answer, as best as I could, and that made me feel like something was wrong with me, that I couldn't finish the test as quickly as others. The time limit turned the test into a sick sort of competition, where I needed to be quick with my answers, because otherwise I felt like I wasn't good enough to pass. But then again, rushing through the questions was a no-go because I wanted to actually try. I was stuck in this permanent limbo of not feeling fast enough compared to others, but also feeling too fast for my own good.
I don't agree with standardized tests at all, because it feels like they do more harm than good. I've always hated them, and I just need to vent about them whenever I hear something about them.
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In regards to your question about standardized testing, I had actually written a paper, a five-paragraph persuasive essay, about why standardized tests should be forgotten while I was in high school.
The first point I'd like to bring up is the phrase itself, standardized testing. It does not make sense for there to be a standard for testing, because nobody tests quite the same way. It puts students from poor backgrounds and/or schools, neurodivergent students, and students with other accommodations at a severe disadvantage. A former classmate of mine had a rare heart condition that basically made her cold-blooded. She couldn't attend school during the winter months because she'd be at risk of dying from the cold--and we our school was in Wisconsin, one of the coldest states to be in. She had to learn virtually from home while other students were at school, and because of that, she had a harder time keeping up with assignments, tests, projects, and even general attendance because both their internet connection and the school's weren't all too great. I myself am on the autism spectrum, and even though I graduated from high school this past May, I still have my 504 plan in place for college because there are certain accommodations that I needed and will still probably need just to keep myself from drowning in anxiety, since the shift from high school to college will undoubtedly be very difficult for me to get used to. I actually scored fairly high on the ACT, but that shouldn't take away from the fact that I needed accommodations to take the test and do the best that I possibly could have.
My second issue is the time limit. I have no idea why there needs to be a time limit on these types of tests. Sure, it shouldn't take students eight hours to complete it, but having the strict time limit puts pressure and anxiety on students who take longer on tests than others, including myself. The time limit restrained my ability to answer some of the questions, especially ones that required a paragraph answer, as best as I could, and that made me feel like something was wrong with me, that I couldn't finish the test as quickly as others. The time limit turned the test into a sick sort of competition, where I needed to be quick with my answers, because otherwise I felt like I wasn't good enough to pass. But then again, rushing through the questions was a no-go because I wanted to actually try. I was stuck in this permanent limbo of not feeling fast enough compared to others, but also feeling too fast for my own good.
I don't agree with standardized tests at all, because it feels like they do more harm than good. I've always hated them, and I just need to vent about them whenever I hear something about them.
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Stephanie
Standardized testing cannot work because there is no such thing as a standardized person
We put our students through a whirlwind of expectation to get a grade that will mean nothing to them in 5 or more years after graduation. Every child and student is unique and trying to act like they are all the same minimizes the voices of those who have different ways of learning and those who are neurodivergent. And while yes, I understand the benefits of standardized testing and how it can effect the budget a school gets you would think that a schools performance should be based on the amount learned not their ability to throw up what is shoved down their throats. My personal opinion is that we should have a testing system where the questions evolve based on how you answer ( this will keep a similar standardized test format but will be a little different) so that way the questions change to how many questions you get right so if there is one subject of math that you ace all the questions it progresses you to the nest lvl and if you struggle on that it will bounce between question of the last topic and the new topic and if you start to answer correct; y it will move you forward if you keep messing up and hitting a plateau it will end the test and score you based on the increase between either standard for your grade or based on the last time you tested. This form of testing should let the schools be graded based off of the net gain of their students instead of how much bullsh t they can regurgitate back up. Please keep in mind that I myself am i HS student so this might not be the best of ideas
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Standardized testing cannot work because there is no such thing as a standardized person
We put our students through a whirlwind of expectation to get a grade that will mean nothing to them in 5 or more years after graduation. Every child and student is unique and trying to act like they are all the same minimizes the voices of those who have different ways of learning and those who are neurodivergent. And while yes, I understand the benefits of standardized testing and how it can effect the budget a school gets you would think that a schools performance should be based on the amount learned not their ability to throw up what is shoved down their throats. My personal opinion is that we should have a testing system where the questions evolve based on how you answer ( this will keep a similar standardized test format but will be a little different) so that way the questions change to how many questions you get right so if there is one subject of math that you ace all the questions it progresses you to the nest lvl and if you struggle on that it will bounce between question of the last topic and the new topic and if you start to answer correct; y it will move you forward if you keep messing up and hitting a plateau it will end the test and score you based on the increase between either standard for your grade or based on the last time you tested. This form of testing should let the schools be graded based off of the net gain of their students instead of how much bullsh t they can regurgitate back up. Please keep in mind that I myself am i HS student so this might not be the best of ideas
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The
Regarding standardized tests, I completely agree with phasing them out altogether. Tests like the SAT, ACT, and GRE don t really do much but test whether you re good at taking the SAT, ACT, or GRE. Sure, verbal and quant skills can be useful depending on what you re doing in undergrad or grad school, but it s not really an accurate assessment of your abilities, skills, or likelihood of success. And people can be very capable of doing well at a particular school or program but not be great test takers. Things like personal statements and letters of recommendation are much more tailored (or at least have the potential to be) to the specific college or program someone is applying to. That s why some schools really prioritize this type of qualitative data and really de-emphasize test scores. What we use to assess people needs to actually be applicable to real-world situations and, for the most part, many standardized tests are not a good representation of what a student or professional will actually be doing. (Just one example - how often are you going to find yourself in situation where you can t reference anything to help you solve a problem - likely not often and just one reason why many tests are not a good assessment of ability or learning.
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Regarding standardized tests, I completely agree with phasing them out altogether. Tests like the SAT, ACT, and GRE don t really do much but test whether you re good at taking the SAT, ACT, or GRE. Sure, verbal and quant skills can be useful depending on what you re doing in undergrad or grad school, but it s not really an accurate assessment of your abilities, skills, or likelihood of success. And people can be very capable of doing well at a particular school or program but not be great test takers. Things like personal statements and letters of recommendation are much more tailored (or at least have the potential to be) to the specific college or program someone is applying to. That s why some schools really prioritize this type of qualitative data and really de-emphasize test scores. What we use to assess people needs to actually be applicable to real-world situations and, for the most part, many standardized tests are not a good representation of what a student or professional will actually be doing. (Just one example - how often are you going to find yourself in situation where you can t reference anything to help you solve a problem - likely not often and just one reason why many tests are not a good assessment of ability or learning.
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mad
Hi, Jenna & Julian leaving should be a big kick in the head,
To creators & viewers to take more responsibly for their actions.
The sad thing is there are very few authentic people that are honestly themselves.
The bandwagon mass crowds go off all the time looking for its next outrage.
The thing is Jenna was so upset with herself thinking she might have hurt anyone's feelings.
She is one of the good ones & so is Julian, you could tell he tried so hard to go on without her.
He did so out of love for her & respect for their viewers & I for one admire that.
I wish them health, calm, peaceful life, I do miss them they are the age of my kid would be.
Silly, I know but adult kids are a treasure most folks don't realize, until your child that passed young
Would now be in their '30s, so they kinda feel like a family of sorts.
That is selfish to want them to go on the same old ways when it is for their mental health & happiness they had to stop.
I for one will really miss their little family, I will send them good wishes & hope they do well & will look in every so often.
They had comments turned off so hopefully, they will see some of these messages.
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Hi, Jenna & Julian leaving should be a big kick in the head,
To creators & viewers to take more responsibly for their actions.
The sad thing is there are very few authentic people that are honestly themselves.
The bandwagon mass crowds go off all the time looking for its next outrage.
The thing is Jenna was so upset with herself thinking she might have hurt anyone's feelings.
She is one of the good ones & so is Julian, you could tell he tried so hard to go on without her.
He did so out of love for her & respect for their viewers & I for one admire that.
I wish them health, calm, peaceful life, I do miss them they are the age of my kid would be.
Silly, I know but adult kids are a treasure most folks don't realize, until your child that passed young
Would now be in their '30s, so they kinda feel like a family of sorts.
That is selfish to want them to go on the same old ways when it is for their mental health & happiness they had to stop.
I for one will really miss their little family, I will send them good wishes & hope they do well & will look in every so often.
They had comments turned off so hopefully, they will see some of these messages.
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Brett
About the UK; admissions based on algorithms or teachers both have flaws. Teachers do tend to inflate predicted scores, but algorithms have biases and even just basing it on previous' years grades could screw over students who slacked off during their younger years but are now fully committed to work their ass off and get the best possible grades on the actual exams. I think in this exceptional situation due to COVID giving them the benefit of the doubt would be fair, by indeed giving them whatever score comes out higher. I think it is worth noting that getting in to University is only the beginning. Each student will have to continue to prove himself for multiple years - against their peers - because most universities work with a weighted grading system (like a Bell curve. In the UK employers pay close attention to the grades graduates received in University, and there is a big difference between a good and an average grade, so students will have to consistently prove themselves all throughout university as well.
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About the UK; admissions based on algorithms or teachers both have flaws. Teachers do tend to inflate predicted scores, but algorithms have biases and even just basing it on previous' years grades could screw over students who slacked off during their younger years but are now fully committed to work their ass off and get the best possible grades on the actual exams. I think in this exceptional situation due to COVID giving them the benefit of the doubt would be fair, by indeed giving them whatever score comes out higher. I think it is worth noting that getting in to University is only the beginning. Each student will have to continue to prove himself for multiple years - against their peers - because most universities work with a weighted grading system (like a Bell curve. In the UK employers pay close attention to the grades graduates received in University, and there is a big difference between a good and an average grade, so students will have to consistently prove themselves all throughout university as well.
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blogs
They need to stop standardized testing. They have proven multiple times that it doesn't benefit the students! So why do it? We should be giving these kids the best chance to succeed, instead of telling them if you don't pass this you don't get far! We tell them to push themselves so far that by the time they look up they don't know where they are. They don't know if this is what they really wanted. Life should be enjoyment not a constant struggle. I know that times are tough now and they will probably stay that way for a while. But! If we don't start changing things now it will take longer for us to get where we need to be as human beings! Stop standardized testing! Stop division! Love each other! And be safe
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They need to stop standardized testing. They have proven multiple times that it doesn't benefit the students! So why do it? We should be giving these kids the best chance to succeed, instead of telling them if you don't pass this you don't get far! We tell them to push themselves so far that by the time they look up they don't know where they are. They don't know if this is what they really wanted. Life should be enjoyment not a constant struggle. I know that times are tough now and they will probably stay that way for a while. But! If we don't start changing things now it will take longer for us to get where we need to be as human beings! Stop standardized testing! Stop division! Love each other! And be safe
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drzarkoz
I fear you may have over-equated SATs and A-Levels, while A level results are often used for university entry they are a qualification in themselves. This means that a year with enormous grade inflation could result in unfairness when students from this year apply to jobs and particularly if they apply to universities next year when they will be competing with students who went though the entire exam process. While there were clearly great flaws with the algorithm used it was set up to solve a real problem, which has now been left entirely unattended
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I fear you may have over-equated SATs and A-Levels, while A level results are often used for university entry they are a qualification in themselves. This means that a year with enormous grade inflation could result in unfairness when students from this year apply to jobs and particularly if they apply to universities next year when they will be competing with students who went though the entire exam process. While there were clearly great flaws with the algorithm used it was set up to solve a real problem, which has now been left entirely unattended
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MaddogMedinaJoe
I never took the S. A. T I remember they had a time for it, in school. but when I went to take it they told me is cost money so I asked if it was mandatory. they said no, so I just ook the next 3 hours off. I think I went to the gestation and bought a monster then walked around till 3rd period. weird to think some ppl fight to do something I through the opportunity for away. but at the same time, the S. A. T is for college and I was too broke fo that so I knew there was no point in taking the test anyway.
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I never took the S. A. T I remember they had a time for it, in school. but when I went to take it they told me is cost money so I asked if it was mandatory. they said no, so I just ook the next 3 hours off. I think I went to the gestation and bought a monster then walked around till 3rd period. weird to think some ppl fight to do something I through the opportunity for away. but at the same time, the S. A. T is for college and I was too broke fo that so I knew there was no point in taking the test anyway.
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Millie
As someone who received A-Level results it was really devastating to receive my grades, because it in no way reflected my potential. However, my university still accepted me regardless of my grades - not out of good will but because they are in desperate need of money due to the Covid-19 outbreak so they want as many students as possible. So, it s really been potluck about what universities you can get into or can t and whether the universities will prioritise their own reputation or income.
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As someone who received A-Level results it was really devastating to receive my grades, because it in no way reflected my potential. However, my university still accepted me regardless of my grades - not out of good will but because they are in desperate need of money due to the Covid-19 outbreak so they want as many students as possible. So, it s really been potluck about what universities you can get into or can t and whether the universities will prioritise their own reputation or income.
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