Is This a Chinese City in Malaysia?
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Forest City would ultimately have developed 700, 000 units - apartments and houses. That was the plan. Even at the very minimum, that would be 700, 000 new (Chinese) residents! The current population of Johor State is about 1. 8 million. Johor Bahru is just over 1 million. Assuming an occupancy of 3 persons per home in Forest City, it could house ALL the population in Johor. Or mean 2. 1 million Chinese entering and living in Johor. Even with just ONE occupant, 700, 000 homeowners would increase the population of Johor by about 40%! IF Chinese buyers were buying to live in those homes. But they are not. The pattern is for the Chinese buyers to buy the homes as investment. Hoping that the value of the homes they bought would rise in value. So Country Garden was basically building a (speculative) Ghost City.
Date: 2024-01-04
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-TRINI333
I noticed most of the complaints are language/political concerns of the Chinese project being in Malaysia. Too many mandarin speakers aren't able to communicate and work with the Malay speakers in the forest city, so the project is turning into a Tower of Babel sort of issue, since it is in Malaysian territory. Their confusing language barrier is causing difficulty to have Mandarin/Malay/English speakers live in one city, so it's not housing as many people as it was intended to.
I just want to take a moment to admire the Chinese for a minute though, because how smart they are for getting on such an advanced project. I really hope it doesn't turn into a Tower of Babel though, because it is an amazing project.
I wish these type of projects were supported by all governments too, BTW.
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I noticed most of the complaints are language/political concerns of the Chinese project being in Malaysia. Too many mandarin speakers aren't able to communicate and work with the Malay speakers in the forest city, so the project is turning into a Tower of Babel sort of issue, since it is in Malaysian territory. Their confusing language barrier is causing difficulty to have Mandarin/Malay/English speakers live in one city, so it's not housing as many people as it was intended to.
I just want to take a moment to admire the Chinese for a minute though, because how smart they are for getting on such an advanced project. I really hope it doesn't turn into a Tower of Babel though, because it is an amazing project.
I wish these type of projects were supported by all governments too, BTW.
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-nvcxznbcxz
It was Prime Minister Mahathir, the racist was against the project. Upon helming the PM post he told Malaysian in the news that China People are a threat to the Malay community. With able bodies they can easily grab their liveshood. Due to this he started to make situation harder for the project to launch. With these bad rapport who wants to invest in this controversial properties. It is best Malaysia government to reimburse back those foreigners that bought properties in this Ghost City. It was damaged by the government itself
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It was Prime Minister Mahathir, the racist was against the project. Upon helming the PM post he told Malaysian in the news that China People are a threat to the Malay community. With able bodies they can easily grab their liveshood. Due to this he started to make situation harder for the project to launch. With these bad rapport who wants to invest in this controversial properties. It is best Malaysia government to reimburse back those foreigners that bought properties in this Ghost City. It was damaged by the government itself
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-khairi65
Forest city is meant for foreigners with deep pockets. To Singaporean is nothing due to their strong currency & high salary.
Other foreign nationals too should take advantage of it as M'sia offers a lot of access to the SEA economic region. HSR direct from S'pore through JB/Forest City & to KL should compliment the vibrancy. Govt policy must be streamlined in a fast track to entice the foreigner.
M'sia govt must do a comparative research from other SEA countries in term of pricing mechanism & land ownership.
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Forest city is meant for foreigners with deep pockets. To Singaporean is nothing due to their strong currency & high salary.
Other foreign nationals too should take advantage of it as M'sia offers a lot of access to the SEA economic region. HSR direct from S'pore through JB/Forest City & to KL should compliment the vibrancy. Govt policy must be streamlined in a fast track to entice the foreigner.
M'sia govt must do a comparative research from other SEA countries in term of pricing mechanism & land ownership.
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-mautbranco
The video is reallt biased
it considered 3 major problems
1 - ecological (that is compensated by the city being as green as possible and by the ecological fee that is creating sanctuaries around it);
2 - debt trap (that is just a imaginary problem, since if the citizens are from several countries - not Chinese - it's a bit hard to bully them out);
3 - losing soberany (as they already came to an arrangement that makes Malaysian people as the main target over this housing project)
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The video is reallt biased
it considered 3 major problems
1 - ecological (that is compensated by the city being as green as possible and by the ecological fee that is creating sanctuaries around it);
2 - debt trap (that is just a imaginary problem, since if the citizens are from several countries - not Chinese - it's a bit hard to bully them out);
3 - losing soberany (as they already came to an arrangement that makes Malaysian people as the main target over this housing project)
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-Si_nengatcha
Kinda similar with the project in Northern Jakarta, Indonesia.
While there are Indonesian -Chinese, who has nothing to do with China mainland, have lived here for generations, but there are Chinese (mainland) nationals who take advantage of Indonesia development.
They bring their people, their resources, to work in Indonesia but give no s--t to the locals. They don't even learn Indonesian.
And corrupt officials are okay with it. a$$h---s
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Kinda similar with the project in Northern Jakarta, Indonesia.
While there are Indonesian -Chinese, who has nothing to do with China mainland, have lived here for generations, but there are Chinese (mainland) nationals who take advantage of Indonesia development.
They bring their people, their resources, to work in Indonesia but give no s--t to the locals. They don't even learn Indonesian.
And corrupt officials are okay with it. a$$h---s
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-davidwong3613
Najib saw this as a Win-Win for both China and Malaysia.
Mahathir wanted only Malay dominance in every sector. He is unable to share. He even wanted the Chinese to eat with hands rather than with their traditional chopsticks to show they had assimilated.
This project could have been a showcase of joint development between China and Malaysia, benefitting the people of both countries
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Najib saw this as a Win-Win for both China and Malaysia.
Mahathir wanted only Malay dominance in every sector. He is unable to share. He even wanted the Chinese to eat with hands rather than with their traditional chopsticks to show they had assimilated.
This project could have been a showcase of joint development between China and Malaysia, benefitting the people of both countries
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-dawgbrooks5706
I personally to look into this project, looking to invest in a condo. Once I arrived, the salespeople were really only looking to have Chinese investors only. I am Asian, once they understood I was an American their attitudes changed. They were selling condos not even built yet and the whole thing looked as though it could fail. I wanna thank the rude salespeople for changing my mind.
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I personally to look into this project, looking to invest in a condo. Once I arrived, the salespeople were really only looking to have Chinese investors only. I am Asian, once they understood I was an American their attitudes changed. They were selling condos not even built yet and the whole thing looked as though it could fail. I wanna thank the rude salespeople for changing my mind.
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-infermitori1248
The current situation is presenting the forest city as 'unprofitable' and 'useless', and I agree. The times experienced now shows that the residential units being to expensive & likely would never complete. Malaysia should shut down operation concerning this project, hopefully country group realizes that their venture was not in the right minds of malaysians!
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The current situation is presenting the forest city as 'unprofitable' and 'useless', and I agree. The times experienced now shows that the residential units being to expensive & likely would never complete. Malaysia should shut down operation concerning this project, hopefully country group realizes that their venture was not in the right minds of malaysians!
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-GrinGottsGBL
Less than 10 shops opening, Abandoned ones easily more than hundreds, you do the maths. Average 1 tenant per floor, that is also counted as the current occupancy which they choose to show for good image.
Nearest township is at least 30 mins drive, if its not a ghost town i dunno how you refer it. A sanctuary for the isolated perhaps?
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Less than 10 shops opening, Abandoned ones easily more than hundreds, you do the maths. Average 1 tenant per floor, that is also counted as the current occupancy which they choose to show for good image.
Nearest township is at least 30 mins drive, if its not a ghost town i dunno how you refer it. A sanctuary for the isolated perhaps?
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-henrybutcher9436
The subject is totally wrong. I suppose this is one of the Sultan Johor project. Is not that johorean not effort to buy, in fact most of the Johorean have several houses. This is supply vs demand issues, the developer are force to find international buyer to solve this issue, otherwise they cannot develop further as no fund coming in.
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The subject is totally wrong. I suppose this is one of the Sultan Johor project. Is not that johorean not effort to buy, in fact most of the Johorean have several houses. This is supply vs demand issues, the developer are force to find international buyer to solve this issue, otherwise they cannot develop further as no fund coming in.
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-dereknewbury163
A very good video and a very fair and balanced account. I admire what the CCP has achieved in terms of raising the prosperity of the Chinese people but am more than cautious about their approach to the fair and just treatment of individuals, their arrogant and comical sensitivity to any criticism and their expansionist agenda.
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A very good video and a very fair and balanced account. I admire what the CCP has achieved in terms of raising the prosperity of the Chinese people but am more than cautious about their approach to the fair and just treatment of individuals, their arrogant and comical sensitivity to any criticism and their expansionist agenda.
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-CoffeeSuccubus
God this makes me angry.
This disgusting city is what I have issues with Dubai.
-Look- at it. Forest City is built out in the sea INSTEAD of going inland.
Rest in peace to marine wild life. This city is bad, and I really do not like it. It's not a smart or green city. It's an abomination of the twenty first century
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God this makes me angry.
This disgusting city is what I have issues with Dubai.
-Look- at it. Forest City is built out in the sea INSTEAD of going inland.
Rest in peace to marine wild life. This city is bad, and I really do not like it. It's not a smart or green city. It's an abomination of the twenty first century
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-tranducanh-ok
As a conclusion:
This is just a scam between Chinese scammer and Chinese victim buyers. Scam was successful in most part. It's a chaos left behind for the rest of both directly effected victims and indirectly effected victims. ( Never trust politicians, trust me, and thanks me later)
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As a conclusion:
This is just a scam between Chinese scammer and Chinese victim buyers. Scam was successful in most part. It's a chaos left behind for the rest of both directly effected victims and indirectly effected victims. ( Never trust politicians, trust me, and thanks me later)
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-randomcat7246
The Chinese funded railroad is what I have seen, not the forest. And I feel like most people won-t care for the political issues behind it, they-ll take it anyway because it-s nicer and has better aircon than the above ground railroads. Interesting how much influence is spreading though
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The Chinese funded railroad is what I have seen, not the forest. And I feel like most people won-t care for the political issues behind it, they-ll take it anyway because it-s nicer and has better aircon than the above ground railroads. Interesting how much influence is spreading though
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-fusemalaysia840
I can control from people mask or unmasked me, if I purge all the elements they still mask your eyes views. if I unmasked and you unmasked the view -still kena sidai- under the sun. they market they education system so we cannot talk so much
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I can control from people mask or unmasked me, if I purge all the elements they still mask your eyes views. if I unmasked and you unmasked the view -still kena sidai- under the sun. they market they education system so we cannot talk so much
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-zechazerozero7326
We Malaysian have the most beautiful city build on our land but, sad it's not for us. Not for Malay, indian or Malaysian Chinese. But for China's government and Singaporean. We can't even afford it. In the end, the benefits only for them.
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We Malaysian have the most beautiful city build on our land but, sad it's not for us. Not for Malay, indian or Malaysian Chinese. But for China's government and Singaporean. We can't even afford it. In the end, the benefits only for them.
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-hanssolos3699
i have no idea where this is, but every major cities around the world have an enclave similar to this that was built by emperor xi jinping. It is part of emperor xi's world domination. Your next door neighbor is probably a chinese spy.
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i have no idea where this is, but every major cities around the world have an enclave similar to this that was built by emperor xi jinping. It is part of emperor xi's world domination. Your next door neighbor is probably a chinese spy.
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-mrguyrun
don't really like tun m, but glad that he made the decision
as a Malaysian chinese myself, I am very disappointed that many people of my kind still supporting project like these just because they are backed by 'home' country
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don't really like tun m, but glad that he made the decision
as a Malaysian chinese myself, I am very disappointed that many people of my kind still supporting project like these just because they are backed by 'home' country
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-freedom1061
Over 70% of Singapore population is of chinese decent. they built and brought wealth to that country. accomplishing to build another Hong kong.
Malaysia is about 50% chinese. they were going to build there too.
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Over 70% of Singapore population is of chinese decent. they built and brought wealth to that country. accomplishing to build another Hong kong.
Malaysia is about 50% chinese. they were going to build there too.
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fun-facts
How about the EIA report? Is it done n approved? Reclaimation would severely damage the eco system. royal should not involvement directly in any project to avoid conflict of interest since they are above the law
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How about the EIA report? Is it done n approved? Reclaimation would severely damage the eco system. royal should not involvement directly in any project to avoid conflict of interest since they are above the law
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-bulan8814
Every artificial island developments around the world failed miserably. Just look at Dubai, the complete project is halted. This kind of developments are not for PEOPLE, it is more of an ego.
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Every artificial island developments around the world failed miserably. Just look at Dubai, the complete project is halted. This kind of developments are not for PEOPLE, it is more of an ego.
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-madingthree
I remembered seeing this project being promoted on Chinese television through countless advertisements through the early 2010's. Never knew the dark reality of this project
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I remembered seeing this project being promoted on Chinese television through countless advertisements through the early 2010's. Never knew the dark reality of this project
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-havenprice
My Singaporean friend had a home here, but had to sell it to singapore rules (HDB rules. It was very hard for them to sell it. no one wanted to buy
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My Singaporean friend had a home here, but had to sell it to singapore rules (HDB rules. It was very hard for them to sell it. no one wanted to buy
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-Name. is2
Was the city even made with the foresight of the rising sea level? (Haven-t finish watching, the idea came to mind the moment I saw the video)
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Was the city even made with the foresight of the rising sea level? (Haven-t finish watching, the idea came to mind the moment I saw the video)
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-aesyamazeli8804
Will this still stand in another 20 years due to the raising sea level? When you destroy mangrove trees you will also accelerate erosion.
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Will this still stand in another 20 years due to the raising sea level? When you destroy mangrove trees you will also accelerate erosion.
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-mieftg9158
The chinese destroy all the surtounded nature and habitant They never care as long they make money colabrating with the corrupt and greedy
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The chinese destroy all the surtounded nature and habitant They never care as long they make money colabrating with the corrupt and greedy
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-byteme9718
It's beyond belief that a country governed by Muslims allows this while ignoring the torture of millions Uyghur Musims in China.
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It's beyond belief that a country governed by Muslims allows this while ignoring the torture of millions Uyghur Musims in China.
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-johnnysun6495
I remember when I was in china, forest city used to run Ads on cctv all the time. It advertised itself as NEXT TO singapore.
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I remember when I was in china, forest city used to run Ads on cctv all the time. It advertised itself as NEXT TO singapore.
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-Loli4lyf
mainland Chinese preparing a good resort before claiming the entirety of south China sea along with the entirety of Malaysia
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mainland Chinese preparing a good resort before claiming the entirety of south China sea along with the entirety of Malaysia
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-believe88
Honest question: doesnt malaysia outcast the local chinese? Wondering why would they allow free flow of chinese investors?
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Honest question: doesnt malaysia outcast the local chinese? Wondering why would they allow free flow of chinese investors?
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-hiren_bhatt
Now that the Chinese developer, Country Garden has gone bankrupt, I wonder what is happening with this -Forest City-! -
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Now that the Chinese developer, Country Garden has gone bankrupt, I wonder what is happening with this -Forest City-! -
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-ERICLIU21
The street food vendors there will have endless supply of exotic bugs to put on sticks and grill and sell to tourists
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The street food vendors there will have endless supply of exotic bugs to put on sticks and grill and sell to tourists
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fun-facts
Just drive there and be offended by the those massive tall concrete blocks jutting out in front of you. Urgh.
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Just drive there and be offended by the those massive tall concrete blocks jutting out in front of you. Urgh.
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