Why don't Countries Formally Declare War Anymore? Documentary
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Date: 2022-07-19
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King
Governments may not like my opinion on this, but if you are exercising military force on a group, especially over a prolonged period, and excluding peacekeeping operations (debatable what constitues peacekeeping and not, say, civil war): You are participating in a war. As far as I'm concerned the story ends there, there is no valid counterargument. That is what war is and not saying Hey we are going to war with you makes it not be war just a much as me saying Hey, I'm not stealing and then walking out of a store without paying makes that not be stealing.
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Governments may not like my opinion on this, but if you are exercising military force on a group, especially over a prolonged period, and excluding peacekeeping operations (debatable what constitues peacekeeping and not, say, civil war): You are participating in a war. As far as I'm concerned the story ends there, there is no valid counterargument. That is what war is and not saying Hey we are going to war with you makes it not be war just a much as me saying Hey, I'm not stealing and then walking out of a store without paying makes that not be stealing.
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Old
If the USA declares war, the Military Draft automatically kicks-in.
Instead of just an all-volunteer Army of poor people, Selective Service will also Draft wealthy pukes.
Don't believe that the All-Volunteer Military was anything other than a way to be sure that only Poor People die in war.
THAT is why the Wars in Iraq, or Syria, or Afghanistan, or Vietnam, were not Declared wars.
In a Declared War EVERYONE Fights. Even wealthy pukes.
That is why the USA has NOT declared war since 1942.
Only poor folks die in Police Actions.
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If the USA declares war, the Military Draft automatically kicks-in.
Instead of just an all-volunteer Army of poor people, Selective Service will also Draft wealthy pukes.
Don't believe that the All-Volunteer Military was anything other than a way to be sure that only Poor People die in war.
THAT is why the Wars in Iraq, or Syria, or Afghanistan, or Vietnam, were not Declared wars.
In a Declared War EVERYONE Fights. Even wealthy pukes.
That is why the USA has NOT declared war since 1942.
Only poor folks die in Police Actions.
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Tharpa
America has an additional reason. On the one hand, the President is the Commander in Chief, and he essentially has absolute power over the military. However, according to the Constitution, only Congress can declare war. The President can wage it, he just can't declare it. So even in the 2003 invasion of Iraq, though he had congressional approval, (and many of Senators and Congressmen who later condemned him approved it at the time) Congress never actually declared war, which would have been something they would have taken more seriously.
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America has an additional reason. On the one hand, the President is the Commander in Chief, and he essentially has absolute power over the military. However, according to the Constitution, only Congress can declare war. The President can wage it, he just can't declare it. So even in the 2003 invasion of Iraq, though he had congressional approval, (and many of Senators and Congressmen who later condemned him approved it at the time) Congress never actually declared war, which would have been something they would have taken more seriously.
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Celaear
fascist police states just keep on pumping military budget and englands corrupt politicians continue to be a thorn in everyone but their lobbyists. Collectively I think we should just say america and UK arent legitimate states anymore and seize the land so we have greater celtic union (wales x scotland x ireland
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fascist police states just keep on pumping military budget and englands corrupt politicians continue to be a thorn in everyone but their lobbyists. Collectively I think we should just say america and UK arent legitimate states anymore and seize the land so we have greater celtic union (wales x scotland x ireland
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History
Hi everyone, just to clear up a mistake. On some of the maps, Hainan is a part of North Vietnam. It wasn't a part of Vietnam, it was simply a mistake with me either misclicking when colouring the map in or not deleting all of Red Communist China from the map I got the image from. My bad.
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Hi everyone, just to clear up a mistake. On some of the maps, Hainan is a part of North Vietnam. It wasn't a part of Vietnam, it was simply a mistake with me either misclicking when colouring the map in or not deleting all of Red Communist China from the map I got the image from. My bad.
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Pawel
because to declare formal war you need to wait 5 turns after denouncing the other civ. Maybe this works vs AI, but in multiplayer you do not care about grievances - you just want to minimize the risk of defeat by going surprise war.
This has been Civ warfare 101 for decades now.
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because to declare formal war you need to wait 5 turns after denouncing the other civ. Maybe this works vs AI, but in multiplayer you do not care about grievances - you just want to minimize the risk of defeat by going surprise war.
This has been Civ warfare 101 for decades now.
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Talk
1. Reaource wise: Far easier, far cheaper, yielding better result invest in that country to get their resource ie going for war
2. Weaponry become too advanced= expensive warship and rank easily destroyed by 1-2 cheap missile
3. Moral high ground
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1. Reaource wise: Far easier, far cheaper, yielding better result invest in that country to get their resource ie going for war
2. Weaponry become too advanced= expensive warship and rank easily destroyed by 1-2 cheap missile
3. Moral high ground
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Talk
1. Reaource wise: Far easier, far cheaper, yielding better result invest in that country to get their resource ie going for war
2. Weaponry become too advanced= expensive warship and rank easily destroyed by 1-2 cheap missile
3. Moral high ground
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1. Reaource wise: Far easier, far cheaper, yielding better result invest in that country to get their resource ie going for war
2. Weaponry become too advanced= expensive warship and rank easily destroyed by 1-2 cheap missile
3. Moral high ground
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ILOVEPIE
the US is required by US law to make a formal declaration of war in order for troops to be sent into combat against another country. this doesn't apply however if the other combatant isn't a country, like al qaeda.
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the US is required by US law to make a formal declaration of war in order for troops to be sent into combat against another country. this doesn't apply however if the other combatant isn't a country, like al qaeda.
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Stephen
Its all semantics. if you send your army to fight an army of another country, then its a warcalling it a conflict, or special operations is just political BS. and fools no one.
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Its all semantics. if you send your army to fight an army of another country, then its a warcalling it a conflict, or special operations is just political BS. and fools no one.
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James
No American politician want to be on the record of officially declaring war. that is an easy commercial come election time. especially if the results turn sour.
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No American politician want to be on the record of officially declaring war. that is an easy commercial come election time. especially if the results turn sour.
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ashbow
I learned in school that moving troops over the border into another country without explicit consent of that country is an automatic declaration of war.
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I learned in school that moving troops over the border into another country without explicit consent of that country is an automatic declaration of war.
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Joy
I think whenever a time machine is invented someone should travel back in time and stop whoever came up with this borders idea. What a mess it has caused.
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I think whenever a time machine is invented someone should travel back in time and stop whoever came up with this borders idea. What a mess it has caused.
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Dyktafon
Incredible that the only thing the UN has accomplished in this regard is nations NOT giving a formal warning before attacking. Such a useful group.
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Incredible that the only thing the UN has accomplished in this regard is nations NOT giving a formal warning before attacking. Such a useful group.
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Gh
Britain is a shameless occupier and a hypocrite who came from Europe to occupy and rob an Argentine island. What a shameless colonization and occupation
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Britain is a shameless occupier and a hypocrite who came from Europe to occupy and rob an Argentine island. What a shameless colonization and occupation
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Amar
It doesn't surprise me that the US is the first who took advantage of this loophole.
I'm not declaring war, I'm just spreading freedom
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It doesn't surprise me that the US is the first who took advantage of this loophole.
I'm not declaring war, I'm just spreading freedom
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Ahmad
Um, they just went back to how it was at the start xD, they used to surprise each others with armies crossing borders out of no where _
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Um, they just went back to how it was at the start xD, they used to surprise each others with armies crossing borders out of no where _
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Marmey
I dont understand why they even want to declare in the first place I mean the surprise factor is much better if you dont declare
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I dont understand why they even want to declare in the first place I mean the surprise factor is much better if you dont declare
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Mr.
Because the big countries are too busy funding proxy wars while dangling their nukes like flaccid dxcks in the name of deterrency
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Because the big countries are too busy funding proxy wars while dangling their nukes like flaccid dxcks in the name of deterrency
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Jose
Great video. One minor detail, Galtieri was a white man but because he was argentinian you guys used a darker skin tone for him.
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Great video. One minor detail, Galtieri was a white man but because he was argentinian you guys used a darker skin tone for him.
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