How did France Get Nukes? Documentary
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Date: 2022-07-19
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The Americans screwed us (the British) over on nuclear weapons. We gave them our initial research that went into testing the feasibility of nuclear weapons that originated as the Tube Alloys project, with the understanding that we give the Americans our research so far, they would use their manpower to produce them, and they would share the results with us. They didn't fearing that our government was compromised by Soviet spies, either unaware that the Manhatten Project already was, or fearing us as a potential future competitor that they didn't want to aid if unnecessary.
The 20th century has a lot of the Americans stabbing the British in the back that rarely gets commented on. I guess it's because we've done bad things in the past too so it's kind of a sideshow than a main event, but it annoys me when Americans get a free pass to paint their history as being of noble struggles and brilliant geniuses, while ignoring the reality of how things actually happened, as in, they were the last superpower standing after WW2 who got to shape the geopolitical landscape across much of the world as they wished for the rest of the 20th century, and saw no reason to do anything that didn't directly benefit the few who ruled their country.
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The Americans screwed us (the British) over on nuclear weapons. We gave them our initial research that went into testing the feasibility of nuclear weapons that originated as the Tube Alloys project, with the understanding that we give the Americans our research so far, they would use their manpower to produce them, and they would share the results with us. They didn't fearing that our government was compromised by Soviet spies, either unaware that the Manhatten Project already was, or fearing us as a potential future competitor that they didn't want to aid if unnecessary.
The 20th century has a lot of the Americans stabbing the British in the back that rarely gets commented on. I guess it's because we've done bad things in the past too so it's kind of a sideshow than a main event, but it annoys me when Americans get a free pass to paint their history as being of noble struggles and brilliant geniuses, while ignoring the reality of how things actually happened, as in, they were the last superpower standing after WW2 who got to shape the geopolitical landscape across much of the world as they wished for the rest of the 20th century, and saw no reason to do anything that didn't directly benefit the few who ruled their country.
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Sven
The intro of the video suggests the British nuclear program just copied the Americans. I'm sure there are Hollywood movies portraying it that way, but I'd call this very oversimplified at best or blatant Yank propaganda at worst. In fact, the British were the first to recognise the need for nukes in the face of the possibility that Germany, Japan or USSR might get it first. The Tube Alloys project started long before the Manhattan project, but there wasn't the same amount of money available and it also made sense to pool resources once Americans had woken up to the fact that Nazi Germany was a serious threat to world peace and - with nukes - even to America. So, the projects were merged and as far as I understand, Manhattan benefitted from the early British work and contributions of British scientists. If anybody was stealing, it was the US as they unilaterally stopped the cooperation in 1946 (thanks for your help, but we have what we want now, so go away) and only resumed after Britain had successfully tested their own nukes and the Sputnik Shock made the Americans realise that collaboration - even with a much smaller partner - makes sense and might add the bit they need to get back to pole position.
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The intro of the video suggests the British nuclear program just copied the Americans. I'm sure there are Hollywood movies portraying it that way, but I'd call this very oversimplified at best or blatant Yank propaganda at worst. In fact, the British were the first to recognise the need for nukes in the face of the possibility that Germany, Japan or USSR might get it first. The Tube Alloys project started long before the Manhattan project, but there wasn't the same amount of money available and it also made sense to pool resources once Americans had woken up to the fact that Nazi Germany was a serious threat to world peace and - with nukes - even to America. So, the projects were merged and as far as I understand, Manhattan benefitted from the early British work and contributions of British scientists. If anybody was stealing, it was the US as they unilaterally stopped the cooperation in 1946 (thanks for your help, but we have what we want now, so go away) and only resumed after Britain had successfully tested their own nukes and the Sputnik Shock made the Americans realise that collaboration - even with a much smaller partner - makes sense and might add the bit they need to get back to pole position.
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captmcneil
Another major difference to the UK was that the Manhattan Program would not have existed without the UK, who had to convince the US that nuclear weapons are a real possibility in the first place. They transferred their scientists and knowledge to the US out of fear of losing it to the Nazis in case of an invasion. When after the war they were being told we paid for it, you're out by the US, the UK felt betrayed. They thought they had to build their own to be taken seriously. I guess it's pretty safe to say that without this, the Brits would never have gone to these lengths - it was hugely expensive and nearly proved a major disaster (Windscale.
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Another major difference to the UK was that the Manhattan Program would not have existed without the UK, who had to convince the US that nuclear weapons are a real possibility in the first place. They transferred their scientists and knowledge to the US out of fear of losing it to the Nazis in case of an invasion. When after the war they were being told we paid for it, you're out by the US, the UK felt betrayed. They thought they had to build their own to be taken seriously. I guess it's pretty safe to say that without this, the Brits would never have gone to these lengths - it was hugely expensive and nearly proved a major disaster (Windscale.
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nicktecky55
Pardon? The UK copied the US? The UK already had a project underway, Tube Alloys it was called. As for the rest, check wiki: British contribution to the Manhattan Project. The engineers were booted out after the Atomic Energy Act was passed in 1946, and enacted 1st Jan 1947. Incidentally, Ernest Bevin, the UK Foreign Secretary famously said We've got to have this thing over here whatever it costs. We've got to have the bloody Union Jack flying on top of it. That was in October 1946, by which time most of the engineers were in the UK, wondering what to do.
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Pardon? The UK copied the US? The UK already had a project underway, Tube Alloys it was called. As for the rest, check wiki: British contribution to the Manhattan Project. The engineers were booted out after the Atomic Energy Act was passed in 1946, and enacted 1st Jan 1947. Incidentally, Ernest Bevin, the UK Foreign Secretary famously said We've got to have this thing over here whatever it costs. We've got to have the bloody Union Jack flying on top of it. That was in October 1946, by which time most of the engineers were in the UK, wondering what to do.
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Limerence
Had an idea for a nuclear deterent that I also later saw in a super hero cartoon, I think it was the 90s xmen. Either that or one of the justice league. It was a device that could disable any nuclear bomb or radiation, effectively making the bomb useless apart from maybe falling onto someone's house. The danger of it was it could be used as a weapon by being thrown at the sun and turning it off, but that wasn't what I was interested in. Something that could stop a super weapon without loss of life, imagine.
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Had an idea for a nuclear deterent that I also later saw in a super hero cartoon, I think it was the 90s xmen. Either that or one of the justice league. It was a device that could disable any nuclear bomb or radiation, effectively making the bomb useless apart from maybe falling onto someone's house. The danger of it was it could be used as a weapon by being thrown at the sun and turning it off, but that wasn't what I was interested in. Something that could stop a super weapon without loss of life, imagine.
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jean
The Joliot-Curies observed also the production of neutrons and positive electrons in the changes that they studied; and their discovery of artificial radioactive isotopes constituted an important step toward the solution of the problem of releasing the energy of the atom, since the method of Enrico Fermi, using neutrons instead of alpha particles for the bombardments which led to the fission of uranium, was an extension of the method developed by the Joliot-Curies for producing radioelements artificially.
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The Joliot-Curies observed also the production of neutrons and positive electrons in the changes that they studied; and their discovery of artificial radioactive isotopes constituted an important step toward the solution of the problem of releasing the energy of the atom, since the method of Enrico Fermi, using neutrons instead of alpha particles for the bombardments which led to the fission of uranium, was an extension of the method developed by the Joliot-Curies for producing radioelements artificially.
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olgierd
Hmm, Britain lost its sovereignty to the US after the cessation of WW2. This adds to the nightmarish scenario of Britain becoming a stationary aircraft carrier for the US such as the now thankfully vacant Greenham Common.
Very few people fully grasp the effects throughout the cosmos etc from the detonation of a Thermonuclear Reaction on or within this astonishingly beautiful planet Earth. -A good concise video.
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Hmm, Britain lost its sovereignty to the US after the cessation of WW2. This adds to the nightmarish scenario of Britain becoming a stationary aircraft carrier for the US such as the now thankfully vacant Greenham Common.
Very few people fully grasp the effects throughout the cosmos etc from the detonation of a Thermonuclear Reaction on or within this astonishingly beautiful planet Earth. -A good concise video.
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Stefan
Hrrm, the brittish had their Metals project and provided all of the data to the Manhattan project.
The changes in US policy towards the UK after 1945 with the Truman administration and the changes in Congress at that time meant that UK was kicked out of the US bomb program.
Partly the britts didn't copy the US designs, why copy something which was partly their own?
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Hrrm, the brittish had their Metals project and provided all of the data to the Manhattan project.
The changes in US policy towards the UK after 1945 with the Truman administration and the changes in Congress at that time meant that UK was kicked out of the US bomb program.
Partly the britts didn't copy the US designs, why copy something which was partly their own?
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Malek
They tied algerian prisoners to poles in the desert and used them to experiment the nuclear effects on the human body. They literally blew human beings with atomic bombs. They Algerian sahara is still poluted with radiations. France still refuses to apologize. Pay victims. Or even reveil the locations of the radioactive trash.
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They tied algerian prisoners to poles in the desert and used them to experiment the nuclear effects on the human body. They literally blew human beings with atomic bombs. They Algerian sahara is still poluted with radiations. France still refuses to apologize. Pay victims. Or even reveil the locations of the radioactive trash.
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Hey
You ruin your video with nonsense like Britain copied America's homework, excuse me? British scientists took their work to America during the war, so it was the polar opposite of your patreon driven statement, will you claim Sir Frank Wittle's Jet engine Patent was American if the Patreon demands?
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You ruin your video with nonsense like Britain copied America's homework, excuse me? British scientists took their work to America during the war, so it was the polar opposite of your patreon driven statement, will you claim Sir Frank Wittle's Jet engine Patent was American if the Patreon demands?
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Michael
Completely wrong. Nuclear research was supposed to be shared with British physicists. They and Canadian scientists helped develop the Manhattan project. Then the US screwed Britain and banned them from research their scientists helped develop.
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Completely wrong. Nuclear research was supposed to be shared with British physicists. They and Canadian scientists helped develop the Manhattan project. Then the US screwed Britain and banned them from research their scientists helped develop.
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Phil
Woah woah woah. Britain started the nuclear project. They transferred it to the US so it was less likely the Germans could steal it. Then America perfected it and wouldn't give our toys back so Britain had to start again from scratch
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Woah woah woah. Britain started the nuclear project. They transferred it to the US so it was less likely the Germans could steal it. Then America perfected it and wouldn't give our toys back so Britain had to start again from scratch
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sErgEantaEgis12
USA: No France we won't help you get nukes but we don't particularly care about your opinion or defending you.
France: Ok then we'll just build on our nuclear weapons.
USA: surprisedpikachu. jpg
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USA: No France we won't help you get nukes but we don't particularly care about your opinion or defending you.
France: Ok then we'll just build on our nuclear weapons.
USA: surprisedpikachu. jpg
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Yoann
American (English's the same)'s own vision of History. you're right guys, don't change anything and keep thinking your truth is the only and real one! See what you do to the whole world, and remain proud!
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American (English's the same)'s own vision of History. you're right guys, don't change anything and keep thinking your truth is the only and real one! See what you do to the whole world, and remain proud!
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MZT
Israel also stole US technology via Julius and Ethyl Rosenberg. Both were hung in the US for their crimes. Israel then assisted France. Notice how they did not discuss how Israel got the US technology?
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Israel also stole US technology via Julius and Ethyl Rosenberg. Both were hung in the US for their crimes. Israel then assisted France. Notice how they did not discuss how Israel got the US technology?
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Michael
France don't have nukes if they did have nukes they would have used them to get rid of french fries already if you think I am wrong hand a french man a loaded gun and ask him for some french fries.
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France don't have nukes if they did have nukes they would have used them to get rid of french fries already if you think I am wrong hand a french man a loaded gun and ask him for some french fries.
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F-Rune
And how exactly did it help the USA to force France and the UK to devolop their own nuclear bomb designs, while freely handing the designs out to Soviet spys essentially with no strings attached?
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And how exactly did it help the USA to force France and the UK to devolop their own nuclear bomb designs, while freely handing the designs out to Soviet spys essentially with no strings attached?
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Sylvain
Could you please provide your source on the Israeli contribution? France has indeed helped Israel to acquire the bomb but it's the first time I hear of an Israeli contribution
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Could you please provide your source on the Israeli contribution? France has indeed helped Israel to acquire the bomb but it's the first time I hear of an Israeli contribution
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jerolvilladolid
The nuclear bomb was 1940s technology. Cant we build like an anti-matter bomb or something with 2022 knowledge, technology, and the aid of the internet and A. I?
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The nuclear bomb was 1940s technology. Cant we build like an anti-matter bomb or something with 2022 knowledge, technology, and the aid of the internet and A. I?
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Yolo
Ww1 happens, Ww2 happens
France: never again will we run from Germany
Germany: that's ok, we'll just lead the EU
France: Nooo you can't just do that REEEEE!
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Ww1 happens, Ww2 happens
France: never again will we run from Germany
Germany: that's ok, we'll just lead the EU
France: Nooo you can't just do that REEEEE!
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