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Why Does Pain Exist in Life?

Why Does Pain Exist in Life?

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In this video, we'll explore the idea of pain and its purpose in life. We'll explore the concept of an existential crisis, and discuss the role pain can play in our lives. We'll also discuss the role of grief in the experience of pain, and how to deal with it. If you're looking for an exploration of the meaning of pain and its purpose in life, then this video is for you. To anyone who has lost hope in life, this video is for you too
Date: 2023-08-20

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I'm an absurdist, which is a branch of nihilism.
Absurdists recognize that there is no objective truth to the nature of our existence (or at least one that hasn't been proven, so most people who believe in organized religions or philosophies that claim there is an objective truth are doing what we call philosophical suicide. Basically, it means that you surrender yourself to a belief system you have no proof for to gain some sense of order in your life. This is why we collectively sigh and shake our heads at religious people who say that there is no purpose in life without their religious faith, or that without faith, there would be nothing to separate us from wild animals. (Keep in mind that if your faith makes you happy, and you choose to believe in it, then hey, you do you. I'm just arguing from the philosophical side of things.
However, absurdists don't look at the truth that life is meaningless and surrender to it. Instead, we choose to rebel against it. We choose to rebel against the fact that we will die, we choose to rebel against anything that tried to hold us down, and we choose to rebel against the suffering that is inherent to this world. If someone's ever told you Life's tough and then you die, then they're showing a dark nihilism to you, and they're surrendering to the nature of existence that tells you there is no hope or happiness to believe in because you will die. However, the absurdist response is Then let's make life fun before we die.
To be an absurdist means to raise your middle finger to the world and choose your own path and your own joy. Not necessarily to create your own purpose unless you want to, but to always enjoy every last moment. Yes, it is inevitable that we will die. It is inevitable that we will suffer, and yes, it is inevitable that bad things will happen to us and the people we love. But to be an absurdist is to rebel against that negativity, to believe that things can and will get better, and to believe that no matter what life throws at you, you can overcome it.
And yes, I'm not a fan of societal expectations, laws, or other traditional or practical aspects of life that do not exist for the sake of treating others with dignity and empathy. Why? Because the only way to rebel against the cruelty of the world is to be kind to others and yourselves. If people think you're weird, that's their problem. If you're not acting up to their social norms or expectations, that's their problem. If you're choosing to be who you want to be, and people don't like that, again, that's their problem. So long as you aren't actively causing harm, then rebel until you and everyone else around you is happy.

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I don't know how to feel about this. Life can simultaneously have meaning and no meaning. As a 26 year old man with BPD, I'm living a life that is so lonely, with me being completely unloved and without any intimacy during my whole life. I'm hurting alot. I grew up with a xxx addiction. Made plenty of progress. Now drinking alcohol daily and going backwards because I see no reason when it's just pain and loneliness - It hurts too much to try to find and share intimacy, and so I would rather not be here. Within a few weeks, I should have another attempt at DBT, but I'll probably screw it up & continue to be like this.
So what does it all mean?
To be alive and yet not living. To hurt with periods of hedonism to fill the holes. To experience suicidality for over 13 years, and yet to still be alive. To wish it was all over.
The essence of pain is good. It's necessary. Some of the greatest people on this Earth have learned to appreciate and even leverage their pain. To endure great hardships in a noble way is what leads to mental fortitude. Yet that mental fortitude must be worked on regularly, otherwise if a person takes the path of hedonism/escapism again, they shall endure hardship without a meaning or purpose.
That lack of meaning quickly spirals you back down towards nihilism.
It's a constant process. And that is what bothers me. I'm exhausted from being alive, from trying (And even making incredible progress at times) & failing, from being me. To live this way is pain regardless of effort.
I managed to do well without getting bitter about this existence, but I have a life that's going nowhere and I can't handle it anymore. in the end, all of our experiences of existence is gone.
The pain of one's existence is only worthwhile if there's meaning and purpose to one's pain.
Meaning and purpose that leads to something greater.
I don't have that hope.
I did enjoy the video, thank you.

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An interesting topic for sure. Reminds me of this writing prompt in the Talos Principle about what you'd do if you discovered you were a machine and not human. The death part doesn't scare or worry me but the dying part does as that's likely to be an unpleasant experience. Not a problem i can solve though so aside from occasionally wondering how it'll feel to no longer exist i don't think about it much. Apathy has its uses with things like that. Has its drawbacks too but everything in life's a trade-off so, eh.
I guess i could be considered slightly nihilistic as my only real goal in life is to be entertained and as i am very easily amused i succeeded in that almost immediately. I wouldn't say that 'nothing matters' per se but rather that 'nothing is permanent'. That impermanence is why i'd rather prioritize my own enjoyment over more lofty ambitions but it's also why i try to help others with their goals where i can and not get in the way of other people enjoying themselves, within reason of course.

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to be honest life is really meaningless for me, not in a good way too. for me nothing matters, not even myself. ive had this feeling for such a long time and its really getting exhausting. my life is basically falling apart but the worst of it is, that i dont care. itll all come to an end sooner or later so why even bother fixing it, it wont do me any good. i really want to care tho and get all of that fixed, but i just can't get myself to care about all that. all of this is making me feel so bad because of the people that i hurt with my actions and behaviour. i really want to let go. it doesnt matter anyway if i do, my life is so miserable and meaningless that not a single person will care. by me disappearing ill do a good thing for once. i wont make other lifes so miserable and ill release them from having to struggle with me. thats the last thing that i should do and i own them atleast this much.
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I regard myself as a nihilist, I have been unable to logically assign meaning to anything. I have suffered depressive symptoms because of it for many years. It really does free you from responsibility, but that removes any associated rewards. I am searching for the balance. The elusive optimistic nihilism. It truly is a paradox. to be meaningless, but to try and assign meaning anyway. To adopt responsibility anyway. It is the human condition, if you want satisfaction you must contribute to society. Ultimately the universe doesn't care if you are happy or sad, so if you are going to stick with it, you might as well try and enjoy it. It's not easy, but definitely possible. On the worst days, I console myself with the fact that I will die at some point, I don't even have to chase it, it's guaranteed, so just sit back and relax. On better days, I might do something constructive. maybe. :)
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As a human who had their fair share of nihilism I have to say that nihilism it self is not a really great place to be. Yeah sure for a while everything is fine because nothing matters but when you start questioning your own existence because of the nihilistic nothing matters moto it's not really a good feeling.
I like the idea of optimistic nihilism more because you decide what gives your life purpose so you do those things to make you happy. You still know that nothing objectively matters but you still find peace in the fact that some things matter to you and that's your purpose in life.
And also the belief of finding meaning absurd because nothing has any meaning is called absurdism which is similar to nihilism but not the same

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I really don't think you answered the question as to why pain exists. In your video you state that after you bury your mother life goes on and you go back to work or whatever you was doing as if nothing happened. Not everyone can just go on after a death. Sure you might just go on if the person that died wasn't really part of your life, but if the person that died was the biggest part of your life, then you don't just move on. You don't address how to move on from that kind of pain! Other than change your perspective. But you don't say how you can do that. That's the whole reason I watched this video. When you can't go on. When everything is meaningless, why would you try new things or take risks? What's the point?
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I find it funny that people thinks that there is this ONE AND ONLY purpose of life or in life. everything can be the purpose of life. In depends on the context.
Example:
What will you have for breakfeast? -> the universe: I dont care.
What will you choose as you carier in your life? -> Earth: I dont care
Have a conversationg with you friend, that is crying. at 2AM. -> you just saved a human life. before she self-delete
That person can now have a partner/ family/ purpose in life. Nobody will never know, what I did, the universe? Earth? Twitter? nobody cares, but I DO. its my purpose in life.

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Boy, that first thing hits home. After Mom died, I had to be strong to be able to get the funeral done the way she wanted it. Then I felt stuck in that be strong. I couldn't grieve the way I had when other people died. I still feel stuck there. And I still feel like life just sucks, to be truthful about it. I literally do not care if I get up in the morning. I wish I could just spend time sleeping. That is the only way I escape the pain. My best female friend seems to hate it when I talk about Mom. She didn't have a good relationship with her Mom. So she can't understand why Mom was so important to me.
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oh man this topic is heavy for me. I've literally spent half a day just laying in my bed staring at the sealing thinking about this topic. i turn 20 this year and i still have yet to lean how to drive because of what it represents to me and that is the passage of time. it mean that my life is getting shorter so i try to avoid it but the clock stopes for know one you can try to slow or extended the clock by staying healthy and using modern medicine but still the clock doses not stope waiting for its last tick. and then whats after? or is that it does it just end.
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Nihilism doesnt work, its something that collapses in on itself, its neither smart nor free, it is a coping mechanism but one I highly recommend breaking from, this video is trying to provide you with good info that nihilism is ok, but its not for the most part, use it to feel free to think but get out of it when you know its too much. Life has meaning and you have meaning because you exist, that alone highlights why nihilism doesnt work. Im saying this as someone who went through it and came out knowing it can only pull you deeper down if you let it.
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Ones life ending isn't a bat thing. If you wish to be additive to it having children is a get out of jail free card. The true benefits to humanity is resech and knowing. This sounds dumb but we don't have a good government model. We don't have propor proof of teatching. We don't have so many things that is in arms reach to even the every day man. And well if you want to change the world I'm sorry to say it but ideas are immortality its self. And it's the true contribution to humanity. Everything else is prolonging the enable.
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Oue choices in life dictate who we become. I'm not going to be naive or judgmental here because I know I've asked myself these questions about existence while experiencing deep depression. for me, however, I find it comforting to have a strong sense of spirituality. This DOES NOT mean that I'm religious by any means. If anything, I'd say that life has taught me a lot when it comes to who I am and what I feel passionate about. I just don't want to be someone who hurts others for no reason.
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I have a different way of seeing the meaning of pain, but there are two ways that i like to explain
1, in the religious way: life is just one big test of God, a big competition, that only those who are strong and loyal till the end are going to get the salvation, but for that you have to go through pain, because pain is part of the test, to see if we are srrong enough
But for the non religious way, it's simple, life is not easy, nothing good comes for free,
You must pay a pricw

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That was kinda interesting, I guess. I guess I might be a nihilist but I just like calling myself chaotic neutral as a joke. It's not exactly that I think there's no meaning, it's more like I just dont see why you need to put meaning on life, even though with that realization, then you realize you can do whatever you want whenever and not everyone is okay with it but as long as I don't get harassed because of it, I don't let what other people think bother me.
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Hey, Psych2Go, I highly doubt youll respond, but I am going to write this anyway, Ive been feeling worse than before the last time I feel miserable, as now, Ive been feeling more lonely, losing appetite, sleep deprived, crying every night before bed, burned out from work easily, and even started to get easily agitated over trivial things I normally wouldnt be annoyed about. I wish to answered for what Im asking, is my mental health getting worse?
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I Always know since i was a child and i was depress. but when a special Person come in my Life, everything change. I felt like i had a purpose. Make her Happy was my goal and It Make me Happy too. Now this person left me After 7 Years together. now i feel like i felt when i was a child. Lost, afraid and without purpose. Much more then before because i'm older. I dont care about anything anymore. It's a torture to live like this. Without love.
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Definitely nihilistic. However, I try to abide by the principle of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Guess it's a leftover from religious upbringing, but it's generally better not to ruin other people's lives. If I'm being honest, I think death is the final relief from all the pain in life. While alive, the thing we should be doing to combat the pain is to try to enjoy the infinite beauty the world has to offer.
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Ive watched loads of your video and according to that I might have depression, Anxiety, Bipolar disorder, social anxiety, Eating disorder and mood disorder.
And ye i havent Seen doctor or anyone
Tbh I always feel unmotivated no matter how much I sleep
Any recommendations of what I should do and how would I explain to doctors about my situation? Who do I need to see in order to find out if I have them? Like pls idk

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I may have a modified form of nihilism. I believe that, whatever choices we make, each person will eventually fulfill his or her purpose one way or another, because at some point it will be impossible not to. I choose to be a responsible person as much as possible, and not to worry about existential questions, because I trust the Universe (or however you choose to call that entity) to guide me.
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An existential crisis is an important thing too have because it makes you realise the importance of time and how you want to spend it. I also think a healthy amount of nihilism is important too because there are so many silly rules and beliefs that people blindly follow because they have been taught to follow them instead of thinking for themselves.
Another great video great stuff

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I feel like if pain didnt exist, we wouldnt be happy. We wouldnt appreciate being happy if there was nothing to be sad about! Pain describes that the world cant be black and white, but can have greys too! This thought helps me whenever I feel sad or miserable in life But obviously, no one likes pain, but pain can be good for us. Pain helps us realize when we are happy and sad!
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To quote a good Doctor, he once said pain is a gift.
Without pain, we don't know the capacity of the harm we inflict on others, and we won't appreciate the opposite feeling. It's unpleasant, but it's only temporary.
Edit: Also, look up Eric Idle's bright side of life every so often. It makes you a superstar.

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An important facet of nihilism.
Nothing is inherently meaningful.
The power In this statement is that things only matter when we say they do. A true nihilist rejects any social construct they don't agree with, but that doesn't mean they reject all social constructs. Only I can decide what matters to me.

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i started to feel anxious whenever i feel happy or any kind of emotions aside from sorrow. cause i know it wont last and the pain is waiting for me again, it became my home. It hugs me after a long day of pretending to be ok. and i dont know who am i without my trauma and pain. its too comfortable there.
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