The Bizarre Way We'll Keep Track of Time on Mars
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Date: 2023-12-14
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-StandbyCymbalist
Humans landed on the moon 54 yrs ago and still no one inhabits it. Heck, no one even died landing on the moon. If you think people will inhabit Mars anytime soon, you're drinking the KoolAid. Best case, we get there and say -we did it, go us! - And return promptly. More likely tho, people will die trying and we'll give up. Terraforming Mars is pointless cause the gravity is wrong for human bone structure. Venus is your best bet, but has it's own set of problems. I'd focus on not ruining earth until you can travel at the speed of light. Figure that out and we can actually get somewhere worth going to.
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Humans landed on the moon 54 yrs ago and still no one inhabits it. Heck, no one even died landing on the moon. If you think people will inhabit Mars anytime soon, you're drinking the KoolAid. Best case, we get there and say -we did it, go us! - And return promptly. More likely tho, people will die trying and we'll give up. Terraforming Mars is pointless cause the gravity is wrong for human bone structure. Venus is your best bet, but has it's own set of problems. I'd focus on not ruining earth until you can travel at the speed of light. Figure that out and we can actually get somewhere worth going to.
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-Reynevan100
Pretty neat description of the concept of time, it inspired me to try and define it on my own:
Time is the passage from present to future, occuring continuosly and uninterruptibly.
Present is the only possible state in this passage, ever. Past and future are both impossible and non-existing concepts.
The concept of future immediately becomes the present the moment the present becomes it.
Past is a record or memory of this passage caused by experiencing or observing the changes in the present.
I think I approached it from too-extreme angle.
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Pretty neat description of the concept of time, it inspired me to try and define it on my own:
Time is the passage from present to future, occuring continuosly and uninterruptibly.
Present is the only possible state in this passage, ever. Past and future are both impossible and non-existing concepts.
The concept of future immediately becomes the present the moment the present becomes it.
Past is a record or memory of this passage caused by experiencing or observing the changes in the present.
I think I approached it from too-extreme angle.
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-zorilaz
Time was invented by humans. Clocks. Minutes seconds hours was all invented by humans. Non on that exists it's all in invention. Same as distances. From here to here is a mile. A guy said that and not it is. Who said a minute has 60 seconds and an hour has 60 minutes? who divided that like that? we made our own shit here on Earth. And this Mars thing is a ridiculous idea. Mars is a dead planet cannot sustain life. Why would we have humans on Mars for? These evil pricks like Elton Musk and Putin and all these billionaires need to disappear
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Time was invented by humans. Clocks. Minutes seconds hours was all invented by humans. Non on that exists it's all in invention. Same as distances. From here to here is a mile. A guy said that and not it is. Who said a minute has 60 seconds and an hour has 60 minutes? who divided that like that? we made our own shit here on Earth. And this Mars thing is a ridiculous idea. Mars is a dead planet cannot sustain life. Why would we have humans on Mars for? These evil pricks like Elton Musk and Putin and all these billionaires need to disappear
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-alandechert
You got most of the points right about clocks and calendars. But the year count you say has been established doesn't mean anything because there is no jurisdiction there. The actual calendar and year count will be decided by people living there and the system of jurisdiction they set up. BTW, Mars is attractive as a potential for human colonization, but the attractiveness is less than skin deep. It would be a piss poor place to go -- especially energy poor. Mercury would be much better, with many times the energy potential.
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You got most of the points right about clocks and calendars. But the year count you say has been established doesn't mean anything because there is no jurisdiction there. The actual calendar and year count will be decided by people living there and the system of jurisdiction they set up. BTW, Mars is attractive as a potential for human colonization, but the attractiveness is less than skin deep. It would be a piss poor place to go -- especially energy poor. Mercury would be much better, with many times the energy potential.
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-Daniel-Strain
Other than some scientific applications, I don't see any reason why inhabitants of Mars should need their own hours, days, etc. based on Mars' orbit or rotation. We did that on earth because we are farming and navigating seas, etc. On Mars, people will be almost always indoors and farming will be in controlled environments. There is no reason why Martians couldn't simply go by Greenwich mean time on earth and stay in synch with earth - and just simply ignore whatever Mars is doing in its orbit or rotation.
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Other than some scientific applications, I don't see any reason why inhabitants of Mars should need their own hours, days, etc. based on Mars' orbit or rotation. We did that on earth because we are farming and navigating seas, etc. On Mars, people will be almost always indoors and farming will be in controlled environments. There is no reason why Martians couldn't simply go by Greenwich mean time on earth and stay in synch with earth - and just simply ignore whatever Mars is doing in its orbit or rotation.
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-SapphireZeev36
I once got bored and made my own Mars Time:
A Mars Day of 17 hours. Except each hour is 87 minutes and 2 seconds. Except the 17th hour which would be 87 min and 3 seconds. This way it works out evenly.
Mars year is 687 days. So make each month 42 days. You get 16 months. And throw in a leap month of 15 days.
Idk. I think it just means you-re gonna have to restructure time days and months. But. That-s just me.
I did it this way because it takes care of leftover minutes and seconds.
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I once got bored and made my own Mars Time:
A Mars Day of 17 hours. Except each hour is 87 minutes and 2 seconds. Except the 17th hour which would be 87 min and 3 seconds. This way it works out evenly.
Mars year is 687 days. So make each month 42 days. You get 16 months. And throw in a leap month of 15 days.
Idk. I think it just means you-re gonna have to restructure time days and months. But. That-s just me.
I did it this way because it takes care of leftover minutes and seconds.
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-nickvafeas
Okay, what I can't wrap my head around is this: yes we can break up Mars time in a logical manner as explained, but consider exactly what time is. REAL time is relative and is directly correlated to a planets mass i. e. if you go live on Mars, you will agree faster than people still on Earth! To put it differently, the average live span of a martian in Earth years will be shorter than an Earthling. Surely that should be factored in somehow?
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Okay, what I can't wrap my head around is this: yes we can break up Mars time in a logical manner as explained, but consider exactly what time is. REAL time is relative and is directly correlated to a planets mass i. e. if you go live on Mars, you will agree faster than people still on Earth! To put it differently, the average live span of a martian in Earth years will be shorter than an Earthling. Surely that should be factored in somehow?
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-dbznappa
To be honest, I've always wanted a 28 hour day.
Instead of sleep/work/play of 8/8/8 hours, I would prefer 10/8/10, which would probably turn very quickly into 8/8/12.
But hey, there are people who earn more money than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes between the time we wake up and the time our kettle finishes boiling for our morning cup of coffee.
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To be honest, I've always wanted a 28 hour day.
Instead of sleep/work/play of 8/8/8 hours, I would prefer 10/8/10, which would probably turn very quickly into 8/8/12.
But hey, there are people who earn more money than most of us will ever see in our lifetimes between the time we wake up and the time our kettle finishes boiling for our morning cup of coffee.
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-LonelyRobots
. wait you made it seem like base 12 happened because the day splits nicely into 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness. but that doesn't actually explain anything. It could have been any 2 numbers.
5 blingos of daylight and 5 blingos of darkness. Oh look at that, even split, I just invented base 5.
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. wait you made it seem like base 12 happened because the day splits nicely into 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness. but that doesn't actually explain anything. It could have been any 2 numbers.
5 blingos of daylight and 5 blingos of darkness. Oh look at that, even split, I just invented base 5.
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-innkeeper9861
The Third Relief is the only length hyperpower in existence, being longer than an entire year and encompassing a gigantic stretch of time periods (Including four emanatory superpowers, three length superpowers, one emanatory small power, and two length middle powers.
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The Third Relief is the only length hyperpower in existence, being longer than an entire year and encompassing a gigantic stretch of time periods (Including four emanatory superpowers, three length superpowers, one emanatory small power, and two length middle powers.
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-plutone220696
60 was suggested to have come from the Babylonian way of counting where you use your thumb to indicate the segment of the finger. Excluding the thumb you have 12 segments on one hand. Isn't that much of a stretch to go from base 12 to 60 when we have 5 digits.
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60 was suggested to have come from the Babylonian way of counting where you use your thumb to indicate the segment of the finger. Excluding the thumb you have 12 segments on one hand. Isn't that much of a stretch to go from base 12 to 60 when we have 5 digits.
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-mildsauce9551
You forgot relativity theory. Mass and weight and motion produce time and space. So Mars is smaller lighter and doesn-t spine as fast. So time would move faster there then here. Like the gps time speeds up and needs to be reset every 12 hours.
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You forgot relativity theory. Mass and weight and motion produce time and space. So Mars is smaller lighter and doesn-t spine as fast. So time would move faster there then here. Like the gps time speeds up and needs to be reset every 12 hours.
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-abramburel11
60 comes from counting again on your fingers. 5 fingers on one hand and u use the opozabile finger to count on the 12 falangs of the rest of the 4 fingers. for each five piece counted on one hand you point to a falang on the other. 12x5=60
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60 comes from counting again on your fingers. 5 fingers on one hand and u use the opozabile finger to count on the 12 falangs of the rest of the 4 fingers. for each five piece counted on one hand you point to a falang on the other. 12x5=60
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-mabhatter4294
I heard 60 was used by bablyonians because we have 3 finger section on each finger so one hand can count to 12, the other hand has 5 fingers including the thumb making it possible to count to 60 using hands,
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I heard 60 was used by bablyonians because we have 3 finger section on each finger so one hand can count to 12, the other hand has 5 fingers including the thumb making it possible to count to 60 using hands,
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-calvinware7957
So my question on all of this is why not just build from the bottom up based on the atomic second? 60 atomic seconds is an atomic minute, 60 said Ams is an Atomic Hour, 24 Atomic Hours is an atomic day.
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So my question on all of this is why not just build from the bottom up based on the atomic second? 60 atomic seconds is an atomic minute, 60 said Ams is an Atomic Hour, 24 Atomic Hours is an atomic day.
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-pushing2throttles
Time is the 4th dimension of our universe. We've got x, y, z and time. Hence. Spacetime
The cesium second is not the same on Mars as it is on earth. Special relativity explains why.
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Time is the 4th dimension of our universe. We've got x, y, z and time. Hence. Spacetime
The cesium second is not the same on Mars as it is on earth. Special relativity explains why.
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-TheElusiveReality
Elon Musk also said he would have those people essentially be his slaves and work for him in exchange for travel and board on Mars so uhm-id rather that not be the future?
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Elon Musk also said he would have those people essentially be his slaves and work for him in exchange for travel and board on Mars so uhm-id rather that not be the future?
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-Master_3530
Would Martians count their age in Mars years? I don't think that works well. They'd need to keep track of Earth time for age measurements and Martian time to keep track of days.
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Would Martians count their age in Mars years? I don't think that works well. They'd need to keep track of Earth time for age measurements and Martian time to keep track of days.
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-Krascara
-Elon Musk said. - His estimate is about as reliable as the guess of a toddler who just shit themselves. By 2050, MAYBE we'll have had one manned mission to Mars. If we're lucky.
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-Elon Musk said. - His estimate is about as reliable as the guess of a toddler who just shit themselves. By 2050, MAYBE we'll have had one manned mission to Mars. If we're lucky.
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-egesanli619
I think with that motivation, we may (we should) finally switch our timing system to a more universally precise, atomic based and decimally displayed time system.
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I think with that motivation, we may (we should) finally switch our timing system to a more universally precise, atomic based and decimally displayed time system.
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-Baggssy
Great video but I have to say I wouldn't take anything Elon Musk says too seriously. He's said a lot of things and not many of them have actually happened
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Great video but I have to say I wouldn't take anything Elon Musk says too seriously. He's said a lot of things and not many of them have actually happened
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-calvinware7957
Oh and if Elon musk says the human population on mars is going to be 1 million by 2050 its safe to say it will definitely not be that
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Oh and if Elon musk says the human population on mars is going to be 1 million by 2050 its safe to say it will definitely not be that
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-Ken-fh4jc
There won-t be a million people living on Mars by 2050. Elon Musk is an idiot. There will be exact 0 people living on Mars in 2050.
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There won-t be a million people living on Mars by 2050. Elon Musk is an idiot. There will be exact 0 people living on Mars in 2050.
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reallifelore
I await the day when Earth imperialists try to push their Earth time on aliens and aliens getting really pissed off.
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I await the day when Earth imperialists try to push their Earth time on aliens and aliens getting really pissed off.
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-joshspohn4613
There should be a universal time. But if time dilation exist all clocks would have to synchronize each year
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There should be a universal time. But if time dilation exist all clocks would have to synchronize each year
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-mokodo_
So is the average life span of humans on Mars much lower? Because one Mars year is longer than one earth year?
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So is the average life span of humans on Mars much lower? Because one Mars year is longer than one earth year?
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-jaykirby3601
What? The Earth does NOT rotate around the Sun in an -almost perfect circle-. Is this Christian science?
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What? The Earth does NOT rotate around the Sun in an -almost perfect circle-. Is this Christian science?
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