Small Details You Missed In The Last Jedi
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Date: 2020-07-14
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Liminal
Clues in The Last Jedi as to the Identity of Snoke:
A lot of people seem to have missed this important clue in The Last jedi. There is a line in the movie where it is revealed that the Force tries to keep balance between darkside and lightside, so that when a person is very strong in the darkside, another person will appear who is strong in the light side.
This is supposed to explain where Rey came from, and that she is a balance to Kylo rens power in the darkside.
But what does this say about Snoke? It means snoke must have a equal light side balance as well. Who could this be? well one person who stands out as a candiate would be leia. She seems to have a LOT stronger force powers right when Snoke is suddenly becoming powerful as well. It also fits because they are opposites in many ways. They both lead opposing armies. Snoke is an ugly male alien, while Leia is/was a beautiful princess. Leia was the rejected parent of Kylo, while Snoke is a kind of adopted parent/mentor. etc
Basically, Snoke is the forces answer to Leia. He is the balance to her power. He is the Anti-Leia.
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Clues in The Last Jedi as to the Identity of Snoke:
A lot of people seem to have missed this important clue in The Last jedi. There is a line in the movie where it is revealed that the Force tries to keep balance between darkside and lightside, so that when a person is very strong in the darkside, another person will appear who is strong in the light side.
This is supposed to explain where Rey came from, and that she is a balance to Kylo rens power in the darkside.
But what does this say about Snoke? It means snoke must have a equal light side balance as well. Who could this be? well one person who stands out as a candiate would be leia. She seems to have a LOT stronger force powers right when Snoke is suddenly becoming powerful as well. It also fits because they are opposites in many ways. They both lead opposing armies. Snoke is an ugly male alien, while Leia is/was a beautiful princess. Leia was the rejected parent of Kylo, while Snoke is a kind of adopted parent/mentor. etc
Basically, Snoke is the forces answer to Leia. He is the balance to her power. He is the Anti-Leia.
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viljamtheninja
Personally, while I liked the movie, the biggest criticism I can direct toward it is that it didn't seem to have much of a plot; it was very much aware of its being the middle part of a trilogy and as such serves more as a path between the beginning (which establishes characters and conflicts) and the end (which solves conflicts and finalizes character arcs. The movie in itself didn't have much of a beginning and an end as much as it had. things happening one after another.
But, being honest, the same thing can kinda be said about Empire. It was just people going places kinda hoping it'd be somehow beneficial to them in the long run and then encountering problems at those places, with no real progress being made toward any sort of big end goal.
But, hell, it worked. And I think The Last Jedi worked pretty well too. I have some lingering doubts about it, but I need to watch it again to clear my thoughts on it.
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Personally, while I liked the movie, the biggest criticism I can direct toward it is that it didn't seem to have much of a plot; it was very much aware of its being the middle part of a trilogy and as such serves more as a path between the beginning (which establishes characters and conflicts) and the end (which solves conflicts and finalizes character arcs. The movie in itself didn't have much of a beginning and an end as much as it had. things happening one after another.
But, being honest, the same thing can kinda be said about Empire. It was just people going places kinda hoping it'd be somehow beneficial to them in the long run and then encountering problems at those places, with no real progress being made toward any sort of big end goal.
But, hell, it worked. And I think The Last Jedi worked pretty well too. I have some lingering doubts about it, but I need to watch it again to clear my thoughts on it.
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Old
I personally did not like the story. If luke did not want to be found and give up the jedi life 1: he should not have left a map to where he could be found. 2: He could have gone to the neather world at anytime without anyone knowing. thus there wouldn't be an awakening of the force. It would just be the New Order taking over the galaxy with Snoke & Kylo Ren. Without a peep of the Resistance from rebels. 3: the lightsaber action was NONEXISTANT! You can't have a Star Wars flick without a 10 to 15 minute multiple duels. Disney should have stuck with the original back story on what really happend after the Empire and the Jedi. Especially with luke and leia's kids. That's what fans wanted to see. Not I'll write my own story and screw it up and make money on garbage.
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I personally did not like the story. If luke did not want to be found and give up the jedi life 1: he should not have left a map to where he could be found. 2: He could have gone to the neather world at anytime without anyone knowing. thus there wouldn't be an awakening of the force. It would just be the New Order taking over the galaxy with Snoke & Kylo Ren. Without a peep of the Resistance from rebels. 3: the lightsaber action was NONEXISTANT! You can't have a Star Wars flick without a 10 to 15 minute multiple duels. Disney should have stuck with the original back story on what really happend after the Empire and the Jedi. Especially with luke and leia's kids. That's what fans wanted to see. Not I'll write my own story and screw it up and make money on garbage.
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Presten
Heres a big detail about The Last Jedi that all of the mainstream critics seemed to miss: it sucked balls. The story made no sense and left the entire trilogy completely directionless. I feel badly for the actors as well. Domhnall Gleeson and Oscar Isaac are awesome actors (check out the film Ex Machina. Im sure Kelly Marie Tran and Daisy Ridley are fine actresses, but their characters are so incompetently written that this trilogy has set all of their careers back. Seriously, if Disney wants Star Wars to survive, neither Rian Johnson nor Kathleen Kennedy must not ever be allowed to handle anything Star Wars ever again. If they even get within 100 yards of LucasFilms studios, they should be shot on contact. I hope they both eat a sack of shit and die.
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Heres a big detail about The Last Jedi that all of the mainstream critics seemed to miss: it sucked balls. The story made no sense and left the entire trilogy completely directionless. I feel badly for the actors as well. Domhnall Gleeson and Oscar Isaac are awesome actors (check out the film Ex Machina. Im sure Kelly Marie Tran and Daisy Ridley are fine actresses, but their characters are so incompetently written that this trilogy has set all of their careers back. Seriously, if Disney wants Star Wars to survive, neither Rian Johnson nor Kathleen Kennedy must not ever be allowed to handle anything Star Wars ever again. If they even get within 100 yards of LucasFilms studios, they should be shot on contact. I hope they both eat a sack of shit and die.
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ONE
I saw it last night and it looked like a time warp - let's do the rebellion again (to the Timewarp song! But I liked it - the best since the original 3. But you had to see the last movie to understand who Ben the new Darth Vader is. The most important messages I got from this movie weather intentional or not is 1. No matter how hard you fight to wipe out the baddies - new baddies just step into their shoes when they are defeated, but so do new heros to bring them down. 2. This story has no ending - it just repeats the cycle every 40 years or so - literally and figuratively! and 3. Protecting what you love instead of attacking what you hate is how you win the war if not the battle in good vs evil!
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I saw it last night and it looked like a time warp - let's do the rebellion again (to the Timewarp song! But I liked it - the best since the original 3. But you had to see the last movie to understand who Ben the new Darth Vader is. The most important messages I got from this movie weather intentional or not is 1. No matter how hard you fight to wipe out the baddies - new baddies just step into their shoes when they are defeated, but so do new heros to bring them down. 2. This story has no ending - it just repeats the cycle every 40 years or so - literally and figuratively! and 3. Protecting what you love instead of attacking what you hate is how you win the war if not the battle in good vs evil!
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SuperJohn12354
I missed where this was a good movie, it kinda of started heading there but then went bland predictable, like if kylo ren turned out to be the good guy trying to take snoke down and luke had gone all renegade bad and ren went to the dark side, that might have made a good movie, that would be a space opera, which star was is ment to be, instead we get cookie cuter marvel introduce the good guys, introduce the bad guys, apparently ren really didn't need to find luke because leia is a more powerful force user lol!
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I missed where this was a good movie, it kinda of started heading there but then went bland predictable, like if kylo ren turned out to be the good guy trying to take snoke down and luke had gone all renegade bad and ren went to the dark side, that might have made a good movie, that would be a space opera, which star was is ment to be, instead we get cookie cuter marvel introduce the good guys, introduce the bad guys, apparently ren really didn't need to find luke because leia is a more powerful force user lol!
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NoThank
Snoke being cut in half after little to no development now seems like they were just repeating the mistake of maul. Maul came back as a kind of underdog minor villian/anti-hero in clone wars + rebels. You can't do that with snoke because a) no one is gonna watch a spin-off of last jedi and b) he wouldn't be a good underdog, he's too powerful and no one feels sorry for him the same way we did maul, who at times showed us he was really damaged and used by sideous
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Snoke being cut in half after little to no development now seems like they were just repeating the mistake of maul. Maul came back as a kind of underdog minor villian/anti-hero in clone wars + rebels. You can't do that with snoke because a) no one is gonna watch a spin-off of last jedi and b) he wouldn't be a good underdog, he's too powerful and no one feels sorry for him the same way we did maul, who at times showed us he was really damaged and used by sideous
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Adam
What made absolutely no sense at all was why the First Order couldn't blow up the resistance ships. Seriously, they couldn't just, I don't know, step on the gas a little? Or call in a few of the other thousands of ships they had to jump in right in front of them? That part of the plot made no sense. Think about it. Sorry sir, our speed tops out at 5 miles per hour and they're going 5. 1 We'll just have to wait until they run out of gas!
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What made absolutely no sense at all was why the First Order couldn't blow up the resistance ships. Seriously, they couldn't just, I don't know, step on the gas a little? Or call in a few of the other thousands of ships they had to jump in right in front of them? That part of the plot made no sense. Think about it. Sorry sir, our speed tops out at 5 miles per hour and they're going 5. 1 We'll just have to wait until they run out of gas!
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