AMD Ryzen 7950X, 7900X, 7700X, & 7600X Specs, Price, Release Date, & Zen 4
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Date: 2022-08-30
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Tiki832
What amused me about the reveal is the pricing reaction.
So ''leaks ahead of time had places like The Verge (Obviously the most knowledgeable, extensive and trust worthy source for all your tech needs) running articles saying things like 'Zen 4 to be more expensive, AMD standing ground and won't reduce price'.
Then AMD announce the prices, and the 7950x at 699 has a lower MSRP than the last 2 generations of Ryzen CPUs (3950x was 749, 5950x was 799)
7900x is priced the same as the 5900x was, but 50 more than the 3900x.
And AMD cut out the 7800x this time, sticking with just a 7700x at 399... so kind of hard to directly compare to Zen 2 and Zen 3 which had both x700 and x800 offerings as this change could just be AMD narrowing down the series, or leaving the 7800x release for next year as the 7700x + 3D V-Cache offering.
Peoples reactions? OMG! That's expensive! and articles pushing out headlines within 3 minutes of the end of the reveal like Zen 4 is pretty, expensive and powerful ......
People really are just powder kegs of emotional knee jerk reacting twats, but I will hand it to the pre-announcement false leaks.... it was solid market perception manipulation to get people to react a certain way unless AMD pretty much gave the CPUs away for free, and you can tell who is 'actively engaged' with certain companies by the headlines they pushed out immediately after the AMD reveal.
So bravo Intel 'Press Partnership Engagement Team' or whatever you guys may call it. Bravo.
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What amused me about the reveal is the pricing reaction.
So ''leaks ahead of time had places like The Verge (Obviously the most knowledgeable, extensive and trust worthy source for all your tech needs) running articles saying things like 'Zen 4 to be more expensive, AMD standing ground and won't reduce price'.
Then AMD announce the prices, and the 7950x at 699 has a lower MSRP than the last 2 generations of Ryzen CPUs (3950x was 749, 5950x was 799)
7900x is priced the same as the 5900x was, but 50 more than the 3900x.
And AMD cut out the 7800x this time, sticking with just a 7700x at 399... so kind of hard to directly compare to Zen 2 and Zen 3 which had both x700 and x800 offerings as this change could just be AMD narrowing down the series, or leaving the 7800x release for next year as the 7700x + 3D V-Cache offering.
Peoples reactions? OMG! That's expensive! and articles pushing out headlines within 3 minutes of the end of the reveal like Zen 4 is pretty, expensive and powerful ......
People really are just powder kegs of emotional knee jerk reacting twats, but I will hand it to the pre-announcement false leaks.... it was solid market perception manipulation to get people to react a certain way unless AMD pretty much gave the CPUs away for free, and you can tell who is 'actively engaged' with certain companies by the headlines they pushed out immediately after the AMD reveal.
So bravo Intel 'Press Partnership Engagement Team' or whatever you guys may call it. Bravo.
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Courier
Greetings from Dallas! I didn't realize it was gonna be hosted here in TX (to be fair, I also didn't pay any attention to much of the news in regards to Zen4's official launch) but Austin is just 3 hrs away. I definitely would've gone just for the hell of it if my planning skills were better lol.
Edit: It appears as usual, the X-skus will lead the new gen's launch but we will likely see non-X or OEM-only skus potentially 3-6 months after, and I'd be willing to wager the R5 7600 will have 4.2/4.4 Ghz base & 5.0/5.1 Ghz boost frequency, same cache, and 65w TDP. Or maybe it'll be 105w as well, in order to compensate for such a massive increase in base/boost clocks. Let's just hope these advertised boost clocks are actually achievable in the real world, even if it is intended to represent the peak speed on a single core. The all-core boost should, at the very least, be above 5 Ghz for each of these X-skus in the lineup.
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Greetings from Dallas! I didn't realize it was gonna be hosted here in TX (to be fair, I also didn't pay any attention to much of the news in regards to Zen4's official launch) but Austin is just 3 hrs away. I definitely would've gone just for the hell of it if my planning skills were better lol.
Edit: It appears as usual, the X-skus will lead the new gen's launch but we will likely see non-X or OEM-only skus potentially 3-6 months after, and I'd be willing to wager the R5 7600 will have 4.2/4.4 Ghz base & 5.0/5.1 Ghz boost frequency, same cache, and 65w TDP. Or maybe it'll be 105w as well, in order to compensate for such a massive increase in base/boost clocks. Let's just hope these advertised boost clocks are actually achievable in the real world, even if it is intended to represent the peak speed on a single core. The all-core boost should, at the very least, be above 5 Ghz for each of these X-skus in the lineup.
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lowell
Rockin last years tech over here - just bought an ASUS Prime B550 mobo, tossed in a 5900X purchased at 350 new, and soon a 6800XT. I was just going to buy the 6800XT next paycheck but I think I'll wait to see if there's another price drop sometime around October when they want to get rid of existing stocks. Gonna grab a PCIE4 NVME like a WD Black 2TB cause already running 32GB TridentZ CAS16. That should complete my first 4K build and should easily last two or three years unchanged. Maybe by then Far Cry 6 will be available on Steam so that I can play it on Linux, but otherwise looking forward to replaying FC5 in 4K with settings turned UP on my new AORUS FV43U, and checking out Spiderman Remastered in 4K. For that matter getting a look at GTAV in 4K with the settings turned up as my current 5600XT can't run anything in high at that res. Plus Red Dead 2. Lots to look forward too.
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Rockin last years tech over here - just bought an ASUS Prime B550 mobo, tossed in a 5900X purchased at 350 new, and soon a 6800XT. I was just going to buy the 6800XT next paycheck but I think I'll wait to see if there's another price drop sometime around October when they want to get rid of existing stocks. Gonna grab a PCIE4 NVME like a WD Black 2TB cause already running 32GB TridentZ CAS16. That should complete my first 4K build and should easily last two or three years unchanged. Maybe by then Far Cry 6 will be available on Steam so that I can play it on Linux, but otherwise looking forward to replaying FC5 in 4K with settings turned UP on my new AORUS FV43U, and checking out Spiderman Remastered in 4K. For that matter getting a look at GTAV in 4K with the settings turned up as my current 5600XT can't run anything in high at that res. Plus Red Dead 2. Lots to look forward too.
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shep
they will not be able to make enough to satisy demand for 6 mos - more than likely - a victim of its own success - amd should be able to ramp a bit more and yields will improve next summer - there could be some minor price wars - everyone will do well and even sbc will be much better this gen - the mkt needs more parts and they should be able to scale arm in 6 mos like amd but it remains to be seen - big price cuts won't happen for 18 mos - this could be the platform for 100g/nvme and gpu - networks are the weak link for smb and why 2023 will likely be the year of the linux desktop and 100gbe - there should be more (cheap) 100g switches - clients can upgrade to raid arrays and 200g if they want - i am almost more psyched to see what arm in sbc niche can deliver - more octocores, they need more pci lanes #opnsense on nano pi #link agg
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they will not be able to make enough to satisy demand for 6 mos - more than likely - a victim of its own success - amd should be able to ramp a bit more and yields will improve next summer - there could be some minor price wars - everyone will do well and even sbc will be much better this gen - the mkt needs more parts and they should be able to scale arm in 6 mos like amd but it remains to be seen - big price cuts won't happen for 18 mos - this could be the platform for 100g/nvme and gpu - networks are the weak link for smb and why 2023 will likely be the year of the linux desktop and 100gbe - there should be more (cheap) 100g switches - clients can upgrade to raid arrays and 200g if they want - i am almost more psyched to see what arm in sbc niche can deliver - more octocores, they need more pci lanes #opnsense on nano pi #link agg
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dattda
I feel like AM4 is going to be AMD's low end for a while. Between them just releasing a 3D cache upgraded Zen3, showing a possible uplift on an older technology, and their tentative statements on possible future releases for AM4 platform it seems a reasonable take. Just look at what they did with 1600AF, a great Zen1 based low end CPU.
Now whether it is a good idea, as i bet it would allow for more competitive low end offerings (and allows AMD to shift their Zen3 stock, not that customers should care), or a bad idea as those who buy low end with intent to upgrade later are now left in the cold only time will tell.
Or I may be completely wrong lol.
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I feel like AM4 is going to be AMD's low end for a while. Between them just releasing a 3D cache upgraded Zen3, showing a possible uplift on an older technology, and their tentative statements on possible future releases for AM4 platform it seems a reasonable take. Just look at what they did with 1600AF, a great Zen1 based low end CPU.
Now whether it is a good idea, as i bet it would allow for more competitive low end offerings (and allows AMD to shift their Zen3 stock, not that customers should care), or a bad idea as those who buy low end with intent to upgrade later are now left in the cold only time will tell.
Or I may be completely wrong lol.
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Сусанна
7600X is indeed a bad deal, but that's where 5800X3D comes in. AMD have said they'll keep making it for the foreseeable future, but I don't see any way to sell them without price cuts, so I imagine it will become a strong contender in the low-mid range over the coming years. Thanks to the huge L3 cache, it's also not as reliant on high performance RAM as other zen3, meaning you can actually save some money and go for boring DDR4-3200 instead of the more expensive higher end ones. The 12400 will probably beat it in cost and will also run just fine on cheap DDR4, though, so it's probably not a strategy that will end up working out.
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7600X is indeed a bad deal, but that's where 5800X3D comes in. AMD have said they'll keep making it for the foreseeable future, but I don't see any way to sell them without price cuts, so I imagine it will become a strong contender in the low-mid range over the coming years. Thanks to the huge L3 cache, it's also not as reliant on high performance RAM as other zen3, meaning you can actually save some money and go for boring DDR4-3200 instead of the more expensive higher end ones. The 12400 will probably beat it in cost and will also run just fine on cheap DDR4, though, so it's probably not a strategy that will end up working out.
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kaosine
I mean being on 2600 this is going to be a massive upgrade for me. I need a upgrade but looking at the options I think it'll still be cheaper to upgrade to this and not 12th or 13th Gen Intel since I need a 7 minimum for programming and everything else. Compiles take so long for this one thing I want to eventually do work on if I could focus. But my board is kinda busted from switches between cases(made a few mistakes tbh size wise even with tape measure to help me) but made them work before getting fed up. So I've got ram clips missing somehow causing instability and busted USB header which is understandable but still annoying.
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I mean being on 2600 this is going to be a massive upgrade for me. I need a upgrade but looking at the options I think it'll still be cheaper to upgrade to this and not 12th or 13th Gen Intel since I need a 7 minimum for programming and everything else. Compiles take so long for this one thing I want to eventually do work on if I could focus. But my board is kinda busted from switches between cases(made a few mistakes tbh size wise even with tape measure to help me) but made them work before getting fed up. So I've got ram clips missing somehow causing instability and busted USB header which is understandable but still annoying.
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Edgar
AMD Pricing remains which is great, but they have the exact same issue they had at R5000 launch. The biggest threat is/could be again Intels i5 lower SKUs. If we see an i5 13400F (rumored to have 6P Cores and 4E Cores for 10C/16T) at 175 again, AM5 is going to be a very tough sell.
But... the rumored addition of E Cores across the product stack would also suggest Intel will, in fact, bump prices up. Can't wait to see Intels Raptor Lake reveal and have all the information on the table. This is going to be very exciting.
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AMD Pricing remains which is great, but they have the exact same issue they had at R5000 launch. The biggest threat is/could be again Intels i5 lower SKUs. If we see an i5 13400F (rumored to have 6P Cores and 4E Cores for 10C/16T) at 175 again, AM5 is going to be a very tough sell.
But... the rumored addition of E Cores across the product stack would also suggest Intel will, in fact, bump prices up. Can't wait to see Intels Raptor Lake reveal and have all the information on the table. This is going to be very exciting.
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Patrick
Honestly the pricing doesn't sound that bad. Just have to expect the cost of upgrading your entire platform as opposed to just upgrading your cpu. I may end up going with 5800x3d and hold with that for a bit until prices start to come down some. If I do that I can upgrade my htpc with my old cpu and make the value proposition a little more appealing. Still it's exciting to see AMD and Intel competing against one another so well. That's a win for all of us as consumers.
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Honestly the pricing doesn't sound that bad. Just have to expect the cost of upgrading your entire platform as opposed to just upgrading your cpu. I may end up going with 5800x3d and hold with that for a bit until prices start to come down some. If I do that I can upgrade my htpc with my old cpu and make the value proposition a little more appealing. Still it's exciting to see AMD and Intel competing against one another so well. That's a win for all of us as consumers.
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Scott
I know it's probably the last thing in everyone's mind on a new CPU launch... But good God are those some janky looking IHSs on these Zen 4 CPUs! They look like C3-PO in The Phantom Menace...
AMD used to have the classy, premium looking (and feeling) CPUs when compared to Intel... But now it seems the tables have turned in that aspect.
Yet again, the CPUs could look like a 3rd trimester fetus and people wouldn't mind as long as they perform as expected xD
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I know it's probably the last thing in everyone's mind on a new CPU launch... But good God are those some janky looking IHSs on these Zen 4 CPUs! They look like C3-PO in The Phantom Menace...
AMD used to have the classy, premium looking (and feeling) CPUs when compared to Intel... But now it seems the tables have turned in that aspect.
Yet again, the CPUs could look like a 3rd trimester fetus and people wouldn't mind as long as they perform as expected xD
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chairman67
10:13 what the heck are you talking about ? I listened to her and she used the word competition in all cases when showing the performance comparisons to the 12900K..
Lisa Su said and I quote, on the right side is the 7950X and on the left is the competition & that's 62% higher than the competition .
In Steve's warped imagination she said, on the right side is the 7950X and on the left is Intel's 12900K & that's 62% higher than Intel's 12900K lol...
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10:13 what the heck are you talking about ? I listened to her and she used the word competition in all cases when showing the performance comparisons to the 12900K..
Lisa Su said and I quote, on the right side is the 7950X and on the left is the competition & that's 62% higher than the competition .
In Steve's warped imagination she said, on the right side is the 7950X and on the left is Intel's 12900K & that's 62% higher than Intel's 12900K lol...
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fcfdroid
Mentioning specifically what your competing with is more respectable than a vague statement of we're better than the competition . So not sure why Steve mentioned that as a bad thing with his connotation. It gives customers a more realistic expectation of performance to what already exists to get excited about next gen. Of course we'll see what Steve says about that for our final decision but geeze man don't dry up our excitement
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Mentioning specifically what your competing with is more respectable than a vague statement of we're better than the competition . So not sure why Steve mentioned that as a bad thing with his connotation. It gives customers a more realistic expectation of performance to what already exists to get excited about next gen. Of course we'll see what Steve says about that for our final decision but geeze man don't dry up our excitement
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FinisherXs
7950x has lowest cost/core. Also amd b serious MB have always been able to handle 16 core without any perf. Loss , so as long as there is enough stock it's going to sell crazy, no matter how good Intel 13th gen is , at lower end 13600k is likely to come out as winner. Unless Intel increase prices, or amd drops price.
Now we have serious competition in both cpu & GPU. shortage are over, so time to build pc from group up
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7950x has lowest cost/core. Also amd b serious MB have always been able to handle 16 core without any perf. Loss , so as long as there is enough stock it's going to sell crazy, no matter how good Intel 13th gen is , at lower end 13600k is likely to come out as winner. Unless Intel increase prices, or amd drops price.
Now we have serious competition in both cpu & GPU. shortage are over, so time to build pc from group up
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shep
zen4 mobile chips in minis will be nice - amd does need vol to gain mkt share - the cache chips should make amd unbeatable - they need to bring 6 core down to 150bucks or something - see how much kit they can move - the lead is servers is much more stark - arm needs to get more mb manufacturers - where are things going? we will see machines with many more cores and more accelerators, more chiplets
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zen4 mobile chips in minis will be nice - amd does need vol to gain mkt share - the cache chips should make amd unbeatable - they need to bring 6 core down to 150bucks or something - see how much kit they can move - the lead is servers is much more stark - arm needs to get more mb manufacturers - where are things going? we will see machines with many more cores and more accelerators, more chiplets
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