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The Death of Face Pulls (2009-2024)

The Death of Face Pulls (2009-2024)

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The fitness industry is rife with myths and misconceptions, particularly when it comes to achieving optimal muscle gains. Jeff Cavalier from Athlean-X tackles one of the most popular debates in fitness: the effectiveness of long length partials versus full range of motion exercises. Let's dive into the nuances of this discussion, revealing the science behind true muscle development and the role of eccentric training, all while debunking some of the most prevalent fitness myths. The Misconception of Long Length Partials In a culture obsessed with quick fixes and magic bullets, the fitness community has recently been captivated by the allure of long length partials. These are exercises performed with a partial range of motion, specifically at the muscle's most stretched state, often with heavy loads. While proponents tout their effectiveness in muscle building, Jeff Cavalier urges a closer examination, highlighting the importance of eccentric training as a key driver of hypertrophy. Eccentric Training: The Key to Muscle Growth Eccentric training involves the lengthening of the muscle under tension and is known to be one of the three main drivers of muscle growth. Cavalier points out that long length partials are essentially a form of eccentric training. The debate around their efficacy often overlooks this fact, simplifying a complex process into a binary choice between partial and full ranges of motion. Full Range of Motion: The Bigger Picture Discussions about exercise effectiveness frequently miss the forest for the trees, focusing solely on hypertrophy while neglecting overall athletic performance, strength, and longevity. Cavalier champions a more holistic approach, emphasizing the importance of incorporating a full range of motion in exercises. Not only does this methodology support muscle growth, but it also enhances flexibility and athletic ability. The Role of Intensity and Muscle Failure An interesting aspect of the debate centers on the role of intensity in muscle growth. Cavalier critiques the tendency to isolate long length partials as the sole factor in achieving muscle gains, suggesting that the intensity of the workout, characterized by reaching muscle failure through full range of motion exercises, plays a significant role. This underscores the value of a well-rounded exercise regimen that challenges muscles through a comprehensive range of motion and varying intensities. Corrective Exercises: More Than Just Prehab The discussion on muscle training methodologies often sidelines corrective exercises like the Face Pull, relegating them to the realm of prehab rather than muscle building. However, Cavalier argues for their inclusion as both preventive and performance-enhancing measures. Exercises like the Face Pull not only contribute to muscle growth but also support the overall health of the musculoskeletal system, thereby enhancing performance in compound lifts and reducing injury risk. Addressing Common Myths One of the most pervasive myths Cavalier addresses is the requirement of specialized exercises, like long length partials, to achieve significant muscle gains. This perspective overlooks the multifaceted nature of muscle development, which includes strength, flexibility, and functional performance. By focusing solely on one aspect, such as hypertrophy, individuals risk creating imbalances and missing out on the comprehensive benefits of a well-rounded fitness regimen. The Athlean-X Approach Jeff Cavalier’s approach, as exemplified in the Athlean-X programs, emphasizes science-based fitness principles that advocate for a balanced and comprehensive approach to training. Through a combination of corrective exercises, full range of motion training, and an emphasis on eccentric loading, Cavalier advocates for a more nuanced understanding of muscle growth that transcends simplistic binaries. Conclusion: A Call for a Balanced View on Fitness The fitness industry's fascination with the latest trends often leads to an oversimplification of complex physiological processes. As Cavalier’s discussion demonstrates, true muscle growth and overall physical well-being cannot be reduced to a single type of exercise or training methodology. By incorporating a variety of training protocols, including long length partials, full range of motion exercises, and corrective exercises, individuals can achieve a balanced physique and substantial, long-lasting gains. The key lies in understanding the science behind the training and recognizing the value in a diversified approach to fitness.
Date: 2024-04-05

Comments and reviews: 20


I've always initiated all of my pulls -- _seated-cable row. pull-downs. one-arm-rows_ -- with the shoulder-girdle _FIRST. _ That shoulder-mobility is important. I thought that as long as the movement wasn't accomplished through a hunched shoulder, that it wouldn't be detrimental. Meaning, shoulders _REMAINING_ rounded-forward throughout the row. So long as I'm not using this method to generate momentum, then I see it as nothing but a positive.
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First comment On a serious note, face pulls have really helped me with my Posture issues and upper body stability. This is coming from doing extensive Pushup routine which I did not balance well with enough pulling excercises, and my shouder health suffered. I understand the simplicity and effectiveness of facepulls Jeff has always routed for. Simple is not equal to easy ofc.
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After 5 years of weight training I came to the conclusion that the best excersises are the ones that I like to do (as long as they are good excercises in the first place. People tend to get obsessed with things that are THE best but that is, first of all, subjective to each individual and in the long run you will get more benefit from the plan that gets you excited to come back to the gym and never skip a day.
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Jeff, please do a video on Subscapular strains/inflammation, typical symptoms of this type of strain and your recommendations on working around it, the do's and don'ts of this and even what to typically expect for recovery (I know it's different person to person. You have done a lot of great rotator cuff muscle videos but I was looking for a Subscapularis specific one. Thanks!
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In most gyms I've been too, using two ropes to do Face Pulls effectively is a big no go. There are often not enough ropes and I don't think it's good etiquette to do so. I feel like a complete asshole using two, and resistance bands are often lacking as well. And this is why I don't do face pulls, while using one rope is not giving me the proper form either.
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I think people jumped on long length partials way too quickly. I think the biggest takeaway is to do full range of motion, make sure you’re not cutting out the stretch of the movement. There are a ton of machines and exercises that don’t let you get a full stretch and those have been completely removed from my routine or modified to allow a full stretch.
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Cinnamon Toast Crunch. so now that I got Jesse's attention.
You rock. Lots of us are proud of you kid. Yes, Im an old man. I can call you that lol. But also inspiring. Im old, disabled, but still working out, and pushing myself. Even got my mother doing strength training. PPLs, 5 days a week. Thank Jeff as well!

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I need help with facepull alternatives! don't have a pulley machine, nor are my exercise bands effective.
tried variations with dumbbells but I don't think my form is conducive to the proper exercise, it just doesn't feel as good as a regular rope face pull now that I'm training from home: (

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Jeff has done more than enough for the workout community's benefit over the years. I know he likes to practice what he preaches and stay lean AF to sell his brand, but man has earned another slice or 10 of carrot cake. ( I heard one time he had an extra slice, then referred to it as a bulk)
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Hi guys any good advice to train the teres major other than lat pulldowns and pull ups. I have a thorn labrum and a hill sach lesion on my humerus so vertical pulling that requires my hands to be above my head puts my shoulder in a very vulnerable position.
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OMG - long length partials. People have been doing partials forever. But they also do full range of motion. It’s the balance that matters most. Try telling somebody to do a bunch squat partials and then do a full range and see what happens.
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Reminds me of Karate Kid. If you try to skip the fundamentals you end up with a worse end result. Not every exercise is the best but they have important foundational benefits that benefit the routine as a whole.
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Damn, Jessie has a Back now! Awesome Job Bro!
Also, I'm blown away by how many 'thumbs ups' were added during watching this video!
Went from 160 to well over 700! What a following! Keep it up!

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This is why I support Jeff.
Bodybuilding can be cool an all, but if you noticed that if you put a gymnast next to a bodybuilder the gymnast has way more athleticism than a bodybuilder any day.

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believe it or not at some point i was doing too much face pulls everyday that it ended up inflaming my shoulder and had to take month off to get it treated and since then i stopped doing it sadly
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It surprises me how many people don’t distinguish the brain from the mind. The brain responds to thoughts generated by the mind, thoughts and mental activity don’t originate in the brain.
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1: 50 Question
2: 30 Answer
5: 40 Long Length Partial when
6: 20 5-10% Gain
7: 40 Facepull Benefits
9: 10 Ask yourself this
10: 50 Don't neglect other training goals

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Used to use 2 ropes at the gym, one went missing, it got replaced but the new one feels shorter. Had to actually buy my own long rope, definitely a worthy investment though
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I DO NOT like Jesse's posture when performing his deadlifts. Jeff talks about longevity but I am worried about Jesse's back's longevity when seeing him performing them. .
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Jeff Cavalier is the reason why the rope extensions are always hard to find at the gym. I really appreciate your advice about using 2 ropes. (Triceps also)
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