2019 Toyota Tundra The Reliable Alternative?
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Date: 2019-05-30
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Comments and reviews: 9
Shawn850
His last sentence was interesting in that the Tundra doesnt have the best towing, payload, off road ability and fuel economy. And, for the most part, hes not wrong. except that the competition has to be a specific model. Out of the box, with nothing special added, the Tundra towing averages 10, 000 lbs but in order for the others to match you must buy specific engine and transmissions. Once you do that, dont expect the fuel economy to be that much different from each other. Thats not even taking the pricing of those added options into consideration. As for offroading, it didnt escape my attention that Alex didnt mention WHO the direct competition would be. the Raptor? The AT4? Maybe, but not at the same price point or (once again) the same out of the box towing\payload as the Tundra. And when you compare those two models, what do you suppose the difference in fuel economy is going to be? Admittedly the Tundra doesnt do, aside from reliability, anything class leading but when looked at in totality, its a Jack of all trades type of truck that still competes.
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His last sentence was interesting in that the Tundra doesnt have the best towing, payload, off road ability and fuel economy. And, for the most part, hes not wrong. except that the competition has to be a specific model. Out of the box, with nothing special added, the Tundra towing averages 10, 000 lbs but in order for the others to match you must buy specific engine and transmissions. Once you do that, dont expect the fuel economy to be that much different from each other. Thats not even taking the pricing of those added options into consideration. As for offroading, it didnt escape my attention that Alex didnt mention WHO the direct competition would be. the Raptor? The AT4? Maybe, but not at the same price point or (once again) the same out of the box towing\payload as the Tundra. And when you compare those two models, what do you suppose the difference in fuel economy is going to be? Admittedly the Tundra doesnt do, aside from reliability, anything class leading but when looked at in totality, its a Jack of all trades type of truck that still competes.
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ABOXofMONSTERS
Toyo needs to bring out an electric truck because by 2021 every one is going to order the two new models coming out 45 to 60 k and have 400 to 500 mile range with 800 hp and 15 to 30 min charge. Gas is going away fast. Ekectric is almost no maintenance. All wheel drive 3 ft clearance. Way better then these stagnant gas trucks at 16 mpg. Im not buying anything but Ekectric next truck. 12 mpg? Lol. They wont be able to give them trucks away on buy here pay here lots. I was an auto manager 15 years I know future trends. When electrics are out a few years the price war will begin and you will see rebates and negotiating. Toyota and dodge and Chevy and ford will be in big trouble when them electrics can be floor planned. Honesty Id wait a year for a Ekectric so wheres the sales going to be. Ekectric tows and floats it can go through 3 feet of water its all sealed. No reason to buy gas. Charge stations are all over the country now. Charge at home. Full air ride Push button it goes up for off road.
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Toyo needs to bring out an electric truck because by 2021 every one is going to order the two new models coming out 45 to 60 k and have 400 to 500 mile range with 800 hp and 15 to 30 min charge. Gas is going away fast. Ekectric is almost no maintenance. All wheel drive 3 ft clearance. Way better then these stagnant gas trucks at 16 mpg. Im not buying anything but Ekectric next truck. 12 mpg? Lol. They wont be able to give them trucks away on buy here pay here lots. I was an auto manager 15 years I know future trends. When electrics are out a few years the price war will begin and you will see rebates and negotiating. Toyota and dodge and Chevy and ford will be in big trouble when them electrics can be floor planned. Honesty Id wait a year for a Ekectric so wheres the sales going to be. Ekectric tows and floats it can go through 3 feet of water its all sealed. No reason to buy gas. Charge stations are all over the country now. Charge at home. Full air ride Push button it goes up for off road.
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Barry Sack
Did my Doublecab 2018 one year service with only 7, 300 miles done on May 21, 19. After looking at other models and not finding what I was looking. I went to the Toyota dealer and when I saw this truck I took a closer look, white with black trim, nerf bars, hard bed cover, price was about 38, 000. 00, as I walked to the rear I relized it was the only 8 foot bed truck Id seen anywhere. I then saw the 4X4 on the tailgate and I got into the cab. I tried to open what I thought was the console and found that three people can ride up front so I was sold. Ive built up a metal frame over the bed and put on a hard shell tent and much more. I will point out the only thing that bugs me is the hood has a low spot that will hold water and dart if parked facing up hill so I backup into my driveway. Otherwise I love this truck.
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Did my Doublecab 2018 one year service with only 7, 300 miles done on May 21, 19. After looking at other models and not finding what I was looking. I went to the Toyota dealer and when I saw this truck I took a closer look, white with black trim, nerf bars, hard bed cover, price was about 38, 000. 00, as I walked to the rear I relized it was the only 8 foot bed truck Id seen anywhere. I then saw the 4X4 on the tailgate and I got into the cab. I tried to open what I thought was the console and found that three people can ride up front so I was sold. Ive built up a metal frame over the bed and put on a hard shell tent and much more. I will point out the only thing that bugs me is the hood has a low spot that will hold water and dart if parked facing up hill so I backup into my driveway. Otherwise I love this truck.
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Harley guy 68
Yeah they are reliable I get it. Gas mileage is most certainly its Achilles heal. Its why you see very few lifted ones. Can you imagine 8/9 mpgs on one with a 6 lift and 35 wheels? Bottom line with gas up over 4 a gallon here in CA you have to factor this in when looking for a half ton. They need to make a hybrid, and give it a 10 speed. At least the big three are experimenting with different engines unlike the Toyota resting on their laurels and reputation for reliability. Greedy bastards. None of the half tons are perfect now, guess it depends on your brand loyalty and which one looks good to you. All of them are ridiculously priced now as well. American consumers are being raked over the coals, trucks are just too damn expensive. Guess I will keep my beat up Dodge Ram 4x4. At least it is paid for
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Yeah they are reliable I get it. Gas mileage is most certainly its Achilles heal. Its why you see very few lifted ones. Can you imagine 8/9 mpgs on one with a 6 lift and 35 wheels? Bottom line with gas up over 4 a gallon here in CA you have to factor this in when looking for a half ton. They need to make a hybrid, and give it a 10 speed. At least the big three are experimenting with different engines unlike the Toyota resting on their laurels and reputation for reliability. Greedy bastards. None of the half tons are perfect now, guess it depends on your brand loyalty and which one looks good to you. All of them are ridiculously priced now as well. American consumers are being raked over the coals, trucks are just too damn expensive. Guess I will keep my beat up Dodge Ram 4x4. At least it is paid for
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D LG
The intellectual in me would want to choose the Tundra because it will undoubtedly have the best long-term reliability, but the environmentalist and cheapskate in me could not abide the abysmal fuel economy, which is an absolute deal breaker. 11-12 mpg is out of the question. Im guessing the Tundra was EPA certified before the testing cycle became more strict because most vehicles tested these days very closely reflect the EPA estimates, and often exceed them. If I was buying a truck today, I would probably choose an F-150 due to the wide range of engine choices and the much higher payload (I haul a truck camper. That said, the new Ram has the best interior, by far, but FCAs horrible reliability is also a deal breaker.
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The intellectual in me would want to choose the Tundra because it will undoubtedly have the best long-term reliability, but the environmentalist and cheapskate in me could not abide the abysmal fuel economy, which is an absolute deal breaker. 11-12 mpg is out of the question. Im guessing the Tundra was EPA certified before the testing cycle became more strict because most vehicles tested these days very closely reflect the EPA estimates, and often exceed them. If I was buying a truck today, I would probably choose an F-150 due to the wide range of engine choices and the much higher payload (I haul a truck camper. That said, the new Ram has the best interior, by far, but FCAs horrible reliability is also a deal breaker.
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Lucas LeCompte
The tundra is awesome but it needs a refresh SOO bad. There is basically no reason to buy this new right now. It doesnt have any android/apple auto and the screen in it is horrible. At this point the platform is 12 years old. When you put this next to a new F150 or a GMC 1500, it is kinda no brainier. If I had 60k to buy a brand new 1500 truck, I would prolly get the Raptor (for a 2500 it is the dodge with a cummins) even though I love the 1st gens. I am still mad at ford for not using the 6. 2 V8 in the 2nd gen raps. Note I DO like the Tundra, it is just really old. Also I love Toyota for not doing an AFM like GM does. AFM is one of the worse things to ever be put on any truck.
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The tundra is awesome but it needs a refresh SOO bad. There is basically no reason to buy this new right now. It doesnt have any android/apple auto and the screen in it is horrible. At this point the platform is 12 years old. When you put this next to a new F150 or a GMC 1500, it is kinda no brainier. If I had 60k to buy a brand new 1500 truck, I would prolly get the Raptor (for a 2500 it is the dodge with a cummins) even though I love the 1st gens. I am still mad at ford for not using the 6. 2 V8 in the 2nd gen raps. Note I DO like the Tundra, it is just really old. Also I love Toyota for not doing an AFM like GM does. AFM is one of the worse things to ever be put on any truck.
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Code2142Loco
Last year, while shopping for a new truck, we compared the Toyota, Nissan, Ford, and Ram. And no, I dont want to own a vehicle, produced by GMC, ever again, so the Silverado didnt make the cut Anyway, when it was all said and done, we bought the Tundra. With that huge cabin, its like owning a stiffly-sprung Cadillac. To be honest, its very smooth, on the road. For road trips, its awesome Regarding reliability, and resale, the Tundra cant be beat Well, unless you want to compare it to the Tacoma. The Tacoma beats the Tundra, for resale, IIRC. Regarding reliability, between the two, I think theyre pretty close Thanks for the review, Alex
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Last year, while shopping for a new truck, we compared the Toyota, Nissan, Ford, and Ram. And no, I dont want to own a vehicle, produced by GMC, ever again, so the Silverado didnt make the cut Anyway, when it was all said and done, we bought the Tundra. With that huge cabin, its like owning a stiffly-sprung Cadillac. To be honest, its very smooth, on the road. For road trips, its awesome Regarding reliability, and resale, the Tundra cant be beat Well, unless you want to compare it to the Tacoma. The Tacoma beats the Tundra, for resale, IIRC. Regarding reliability, between the two, I think theyre pretty close Thanks for the review, Alex
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Manuel Garcia
RAMs are junk and that is why they sell for so much less. Fords are not junk and the hold well, so Ford is the real competition for Toyota. Chevrolet falls between RAM and Ford. They are just good enough to beat RAM, but not by enough. The Nissan Titan is a complete non-starter for me. They stopped building anything with real durability a long time ago. The first thing I consider is the reliability and durability of a vehicle and when it comes to those two features, Toyota has its competitors beaten like a drum. Ford, however, is a very close second and it is enough cheaper that if I had to buy a new pickup today, it would be a Ford.
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RAMs are junk and that is why they sell for so much less. Fords are not junk and the hold well, so Ford is the real competition for Toyota. Chevrolet falls between RAM and Ford. They are just good enough to beat RAM, but not by enough. The Nissan Titan is a complete non-starter for me. They stopped building anything with real durability a long time ago. The first thing I consider is the reliability and durability of a vehicle and when it comes to those two features, Toyota has its competitors beaten like a drum. Ford, however, is a very close second and it is enough cheaper that if I had to buy a new pickup today, it would be a Ford.
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Rick Rodriguez
Everyone doesnt realize that the Toyota uses Port Fuel Injection, which will never require induction cleaning, because port injection always washes the intake valves. A lot of trucks now like EcoBoost use direct injection which gives them the slight edge on MPGs. Direct injection will require induction cleaning and oil catch cans since you will lose performance as the intake valves begin to coke up, and once the valves varnish, its a permanent performance loss unless you pull the heads off and get a valve job. Ill take lower gas mileage, and port injection. What the heck else do you buy a truck for, its not for 28 MPGs.
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Everyone doesnt realize that the Toyota uses Port Fuel Injection, which will never require induction cleaning, because port injection always washes the intake valves. A lot of trucks now like EcoBoost use direct injection which gives them the slight edge on MPGs. Direct injection will require induction cleaning and oil catch cans since you will lose performance as the intake valves begin to coke up, and once the valves varnish, its a permanent performance loss unless you pull the heads off and get a valve job. Ill take lower gas mileage, and port injection. What the heck else do you buy a truck for, its not for 28 MPGs.
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