Im Turning My Toyota Celica Into an Electric Car
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Date: 2019-10-16
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Tom Root
Scotty, you are SO correct about the Lithium saga But, there are many Pundits that say the Existing Car Converter Companies, are going, Belly-Up, because even New Electrics are coming down in price, they cannot compete Now if the Number you say it could be done for, of less than 6K is possible, that would NOT seem so bad? I have done extensive Research, and was going to do one for fun, and for ME to do it, properly would be about 12K+, easily Now if you find OLD, Used parts, possibly? I agree, Converting does in fact, make some Economic sense, and better for the Environment, as well It does however, lessen the jobs created, because it has less, Man - Hours, consumed, too But Tesla's latest and Greatest, T-3, can be had for, in the Mid - 40K range, today, after the Government Rebates Those are Ending quickly though, so buy now And they also have the Heating and A/C issues all Ironed out, along wit the Proper Engineering, for handling concerns Last, but certainly Not Least, is the Upcoming, fix for States to collect that almighty Road TAX Washington State, and a few others, are going to enact a Self-Reporting, Annual Mileage Report, that must be submitted, with a Tax Rate Premium, that ensures the Tax Man gets his Somebody has to pay for our Roads, right? They have been getting a Free Ride, for too long Not only that, but You and I, have been subsidizing the Buyers, for decades now, and don't even get so much, as a Thank You, from them, HUH? That mileage, will eventually be reported via the On-Board Computers, on every New Electric Vehicle, which gets tricky, but will be solved with Hybrid ICE/Electrics
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Scotty, you are SO correct about the Lithium saga But, there are many Pundits that say the Existing Car Converter Companies, are going, Belly-Up, because even New Electrics are coming down in price, they cannot compete Now if the Number you say it could be done for, of less than 6K is possible, that would NOT seem so bad? I have done extensive Research, and was going to do one for fun, and for ME to do it, properly would be about 12K+, easily Now if you find OLD, Used parts, possibly? I agree, Converting does in fact, make some Economic sense, and better for the Environment, as well It does however, lessen the jobs created, because it has less, Man - Hours, consumed, too But Tesla's latest and Greatest, T-3, can be had for, in the Mid - 40K range, today, after the Government Rebates Those are Ending quickly though, so buy now And they also have the Heating and A/C issues all Ironed out, along wit the Proper Engineering, for handling concerns Last, but certainly Not Least, is the Upcoming, fix for States to collect that almighty Road TAX Washington State, and a few others, are going to enact a Self-Reporting, Annual Mileage Report, that must be submitted, with a Tax Rate Premium, that ensures the Tax Man gets his Somebody has to pay for our Roads, right? They have been getting a Free Ride, for too long Not only that, but You and I, have been subsidizing the Buyers, for decades now, and don't even get so much, as a Thank You, from them, HUH? That mileage, will eventually be reported via the On-Board Computers, on every New Electric Vehicle, which gets tricky, but will be solved with Hybrid ICE/Electrics
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Otto Nicator
Living in the North, Battery cars are not the best choice. They cost a lot to maintain, in terms of the batteries, which are likely to fail in the North, not a large return on the investment. Mostly because they just don't last. These vehicles are small, street driving they are fine, however driving on the freeway, can be dangerous, so can driving on City streets or in traffic, where there are larger vehicles on the road. This is one of my most significant issues about electric vehicles, their size. I have had smaller vehicles, people will cut you off, pull out in front of you, etc. not to mention, on the Interstate or Freeway, they get blown around by large trucks, anything and everything, is a potential hazard in those smaller vehicles also. Hitting a deer for example, in a larger vehicle, it is not that big of a deal, however in a small vehicle, it could kill you, if that animal were to 'come through the windshield', for example. I'll take the 5k/lb version with the transmission, instead of the direct drive toy car.
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Living in the North, Battery cars are not the best choice. They cost a lot to maintain, in terms of the batteries, which are likely to fail in the North, not a large return on the investment. Mostly because they just don't last. These vehicles are small, street driving they are fine, however driving on the freeway, can be dangerous, so can driving on City streets or in traffic, where there are larger vehicles on the road. This is one of my most significant issues about electric vehicles, their size. I have had smaller vehicles, people will cut you off, pull out in front of you, etc. not to mention, on the Interstate or Freeway, they get blown around by large trucks, anything and everything, is a potential hazard in those smaller vehicles also. Hitting a deer for example, in a larger vehicle, it is not that big of a deal, however in a small vehicle, it could kill you, if that animal were to 'come through the windshield', for example. I'll take the 5k/lb version with the transmission, instead of the direct drive toy car.
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David W
Living and consuming. it's a dirty business. Someone in continental germany did an impact assessment on electric cars and came up with a straw figure of 64k miles before they're cleaner than gasoline powered cars, but the overall impact with them for someone who drives a lot is that they are actually better for the environment. If not great. nanotechnology for batteries should lower the amount of lithium needed, the recycling of the batteries doesn't look impressive so far. That said, a tesla 76kw battery pack has 90% of its capacity left at 160K miles. I can't believe there won't be a secondary market to keep the batteries running a whole lot longer than one car, or have them stuffed into a house in some high dollar area so that they can be charged when the power is cheap and used in the house when it's not. 60+kw of battery bank would be pretty fantastic, even if it's out of a used car.
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Living and consuming. it's a dirty business. Someone in continental germany did an impact assessment on electric cars and came up with a straw figure of 64k miles before they're cleaner than gasoline powered cars, but the overall impact with them for someone who drives a lot is that they are actually better for the environment. If not great. nanotechnology for batteries should lower the amount of lithium needed, the recycling of the batteries doesn't look impressive so far. That said, a tesla 76kw battery pack has 90% of its capacity left at 160K miles. I can't believe there won't be a secondary market to keep the batteries running a whole lot longer than one car, or have them stuffed into a house in some high dollar area so that they can be charged when the power is cheap and used in the house when it's not. 60+kw of battery bank would be pretty fantastic, even if it's out of a used car.
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S Campbell
Scotty, New electrics do have advantages. I state upfront that the green weenie route is ignorant as the avg EV is not environmentally friendly; destroying environment and using precious limited assets for someone to commute to Starbucks. I purchased simply for tax benefits and to limit fuel costs. ------ 21k in incentives from manufacturers including state/federal avg taxpayer rebate gifts, depreciating over 5 years on taxes zeroing cost, 0% finance from manufacturer. I was spending 300-400 in monthly fuel - now I avg 30 in electric. The typical auto depreciating asset has become a profit center And I get to keep miles from building up on my petrol vehicle ---- win, win, win
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Scotty, New electrics do have advantages. I state upfront that the green weenie route is ignorant as the avg EV is not environmentally friendly; destroying environment and using precious limited assets for someone to commute to Starbucks. I purchased simply for tax benefits and to limit fuel costs. ------ 21k in incentives from manufacturers including state/federal avg taxpayer rebate gifts, depreciating over 5 years on taxes zeroing cost, 0% finance from manufacturer. I was spending 300-400 in monthly fuel - now I avg 30 in electric. The typical auto depreciating asset has become a profit center And I get to keep miles from building up on my petrol vehicle ---- win, win, win
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Paul Birkeland
Everybody can crank up their ovens on Thanksgiving and the power grid doesn't melt down. EV chargers can suck down a lot more power than an oven, but they can also do this at night when grid demand is very low. For those EV users who drive 50ish miles a day, the charge time is pretty short. It is roughly equivalent to having your clothes dryer on and using an electric oven/range at the same time. Networked smart appliances could control EV charging based on what else is running in the house. This could even be done with smart outlets where the power hogs plug in.
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Everybody can crank up their ovens on Thanksgiving and the power grid doesn't melt down. EV chargers can suck down a lot more power than an oven, but they can also do this at night when grid demand is very low. For those EV users who drive 50ish miles a day, the charge time is pretty short. It is roughly equivalent to having your clothes dryer on and using an electric oven/range at the same time. Networked smart appliances could control EV charging based on what else is running in the house. This could even be done with smart outlets where the power hogs plug in.
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Ace Report
Theyve been converting radio control cars to electric for years. The difference between those and many of todays conversions is that RC cars use removable batteries. That makes all the difference in the world. Nobody wants an RC car with only 1 battery. You need to be able to change them out so that you can drive while the other batteries charge. If someone made standard removable batteries for vehicles, then, building and converting cars would make much more sense. You could slowly charge your extra batteries or swap them out at a station.
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Theyve been converting radio control cars to electric for years. The difference between those and many of todays conversions is that RC cars use removable batteries. That makes all the difference in the world. Nobody wants an RC car with only 1 battery. You need to be able to change them out so that you can drive while the other batteries charge. If someone made standard removable batteries for vehicles, then, building and converting cars would make much more sense. You could slowly charge your extra batteries or swap them out at a station.
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Dan Clay
The scariest word in this video is mandated Ugh What happened to Live free or diePlus: I wish people wouldn't confuse pollution with green house gases. Until 2009, greenhouse gases were fine. Now that they are not, the gas and oil companies have lobbied to shut down coal generation for gas generation because wind and solar still isn't storable at a level that would make any difference. Therefore; we will be powered by wind, solar, hydro, and gas with coal and nuclear shutting down the remaining plants. All for green house gases.
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The scariest word in this video is mandated Ugh What happened to Live free or diePlus: I wish people wouldn't confuse pollution with green house gases. Until 2009, greenhouse gases were fine. Now that they are not, the gas and oil companies have lobbied to shut down coal generation for gas generation because wind and solar still isn't storable at a level that would make any difference. Therefore; we will be powered by wind, solar, hydro, and gas with coal and nuclear shutting down the remaining plants. All for green house gases.
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Rick B
Here is the green electric dream. Put solar panels on your house. Put a battery on your garage wall to store the electricity for night-time use. Charge your house and your electric car. I bought the Tesla Model 3 that gets 126 mpgE. That is 126 miles per gallon equivalence to gasoline based on cost. My solar panels will be installed late this month or early next month. Now, I just need to purchase a battery for the garage wall. If we all put solar panels on our roofs, the polluting coal factories will go out of business
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Here is the green electric dream. Put solar panels on your house. Put a battery on your garage wall to store the electricity for night-time use. Charge your house and your electric car. I bought the Tesla Model 3 that gets 126 mpgE. That is 126 miles per gallon equivalence to gasoline based on cost. My solar panels will be installed late this month or early next month. Now, I just need to purchase a battery for the garage wall. If we all put solar panels on our roofs, the polluting coal factories will go out of business
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1066gaz
Yep scotty is absolutely bang on the money here. For a start not many people have got lots of money for a new electric car. Converting your current car to electric is the best all round option and benefits the enviroment massively more than a new electric car & it will benefit the many and not the few. I can see a explosion of new companys converting current cars to electric in the future. If it has to be electric only in the future then this is definitely the way forward to go for the future of this planet.
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Yep scotty is absolutely bang on the money here. For a start not many people have got lots of money for a new electric car. Converting your current car to electric is the best all round option and benefits the enviroment massively more than a new electric car & it will benefit the many and not the few. I can see a explosion of new companys converting current cars to electric in the future. If it has to be electric only in the future then this is definitely the way forward to go for the future of this planet.
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