Calgacus: Last of the Free
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Date: 2022-09-10
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Joshua
I know this video was posted a long time ago so theres not much hope on getting answers to my main question. But here goes.
Im currently writing a book about Celtic Btitain. Its historical fiction but i want it to be as factual as i can. Ive set it in and around 118AD. I'm going to investigate whether it was possible for the Celts to win back the whole of Britain even after Boudica's defeat. If one man/woman could have united not just the Celts of modern day Scotland but of England and Wales. Seeing as Gaul had the likes of Vercingetorix and Britain had Caratacus and Boudica. Ive only just recently heard of Calgacus and studying what little knowledge there id of him has done wonders for my book. Anyway heres my question.
Do we know specifically what tribe Calgacus was from?
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I know this video was posted a long time ago so theres not much hope on getting answers to my main question. But here goes.
Im currently writing a book about Celtic Btitain. Its historical fiction but i want it to be as factual as i can. Ive set it in and around 118AD. I'm going to investigate whether it was possible for the Celts to win back the whole of Britain even after Boudica's defeat. If one man/woman could have united not just the Celts of modern day Scotland but of England and Wales. Seeing as Gaul had the likes of Vercingetorix and Britain had Caratacus and Boudica. Ive only just recently heard of Calgacus and studying what little knowledge there id of him has done wonders for my book. Anyway heres my question.
Do we know specifically what tribe Calgacus was from?
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Autsajder
i dont know, something is really wrong with the history we learn in school. when i read and search about Celtic people, or Gaelic, or Illiryans or Scythians and some other group around the world, i see the same people.
tattoing, no writings, other called them barbarians (even if those people are far superiour in many things than those who write the history, great wariors and kings, simmilar legends and mythology, metal work ( especially gold) and many more things connecting these nations.
we can see maybe 70-80% truth about history, and the rest is a big lie.
we never see key elements to get the real picture, and i believe it is weirder than we can imagine.
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i dont know, something is really wrong with the history we learn in school. when i read and search about Celtic people, or Gaelic, or Illiryans or Scythians and some other group around the world, i see the same people.
tattoing, no writings, other called them barbarians (even if those people are far superiour in many things than those who write the history, great wariors and kings, simmilar legends and mythology, metal work ( especially gold) and many more things connecting these nations.
we can see maybe 70-80% truth about history, and the rest is a big lie.
we never see key elements to get the real picture, and i believe it is weirder than we can imagine.
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Disabled
I just wanted to pick on the last two things said in this video: The Caledonians becoming the Picts and the Scots. I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. I seem to remember that the Picts may well have not even been akin to Britons and may be Scandinavian in origin, but I'd have to check on this. The Scots certainly came from Ireland though. This is pretty mainstream, so I really don't know why this is wrong here. In what is now Scotland, sure the Caledonians became what is now Scottish, but they didn't become the tribe known as the Scots. The Scots were Irish.
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I just wanted to pick on the last two things said in this video: The Caledonians becoming the Picts and the Scots. I'm pretty sure that's incorrect. I seem to remember that the Picts may well have not even been akin to Britons and may be Scandinavian in origin, but I'd have to check on this. The Scots certainly came from Ireland though. This is pretty mainstream, so I really don't know why this is wrong here. In what is now Scotland, sure the Caledonians became what is now Scottish, but they didn't become the tribe known as the Scots. The Scots were Irish.
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ALREN
At this point of time, this is the northernmost drive of the Roman Legion, however when Agricola was recalled to Rome the Roman drive which Almost conquering Scotland soon Big down. After abandoning Scotland the tribes there were free. TRAJAN did not interfere Caledonia, because he is busy Conquering DACIA, MESOPOTAMIA, and NABATAEA. However when Hdrian become the emperor, he built the Hadrians Wall, and it was superceded by the ANTONINE Wall of emperor ANTONINUS the Pius which marked the northernmost boundary of the Roman Empire.
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At this point of time, this is the northernmost drive of the Roman Legion, however when Agricola was recalled to Rome the Roman drive which Almost conquering Scotland soon Big down. After abandoning Scotland the tribes there were free. TRAJAN did not interfere Caledonia, because he is busy Conquering DACIA, MESOPOTAMIA, and NABATAEA. However when Hdrian become the emperor, he built the Hadrians Wall, and it was superceded by the ANTONINE Wall of emperor ANTONINUS the Pius which marked the northernmost boundary of the Roman Empire.
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Disabled
Your use of the term Celt is outdated. It's now recognized that the Britons were not Celts. In fact, the term is very misleading as the only true Celts (those who called themselves such) were from mid-north eastern Gaul. This loose use of the term is partly the fault of both Romans and Greeks, and the term is comparable to the term babarian. Celticism was a culture, not an identity or an ethnic grouping. I really think this term should be abandoned as it is so misused.
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Your use of the term Celt is outdated. It's now recognized that the Britons were not Celts. In fact, the term is very misleading as the only true Celts (those who called themselves such) were from mid-north eastern Gaul. This loose use of the term is partly the fault of both Romans and Greeks, and the term is comparable to the term babarian. Celticism was a culture, not an identity or an ethnic grouping. I really think this term should be abandoned as it is so misused.
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Adrian
We the Brythoniaid never referred to ourselves as Celts. Culture and ethnicity are determined by language, far more than race. From Cornwall to Scotland, there was one language. That language was and is Cymraeg, It is Cymraeg that defines us, not some Roman term of ethnicity. It is Cymraeg that gives us our Mythology, our history and our culture. It is the ancient language that defines who we were and who we are today
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We the Brythoniaid never referred to ourselves as Celts. Culture and ethnicity are determined by language, far more than race. From Cornwall to Scotland, there was one language. That language was and is Cymraeg, It is Cymraeg that defines us, not some Roman term of ethnicity. It is Cymraeg that gives us our Mythology, our history and our culture. It is the ancient language that defines who we were and who we are today
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FoolOfHearts
This is a more accurate telling of the tale than most, and as you say, neither side truly won the battle, it was very much inconclusive (and Rome may have marginally won the battle, but they definitely lost the war) which is both a show of Romes weakness in the tough Caledonian landscape, and a show of Pictish/Caledonian strength and bravery in the face of a mighty enemy.
Great video!
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This is a more accurate telling of the tale than most, and as you say, neither side truly won the battle, it was very much inconclusive (and Rome may have marginally won the battle, but they definitely lost the war) which is both a show of Romes weakness in the tough Caledonian landscape, and a show of Pictish/Caledonian strength and bravery in the face of a mighty enemy.
Great video!
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Turin
I don't like to contradict but the celtic sword was made also for thrusting, not only for slashing.
Could you please do something on the dumnonii, I noticed that there wasn't much information on the roman presence (apart from on Exeter, this plus the celtic language which resided there until the 18th century leads me to suspect that there was some kind of resistance.
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I don't like to contradict but the celtic sword was made also for thrusting, not only for slashing.
Could you please do something on the dumnonii, I noticed that there wasn't much information on the roman presence (apart from on Exeter, this plus the celtic language which resided there until the 18th century leads me to suspect that there was some kind of resistance.
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Idge
Not your fault but I'd look at Cartamundia and look at the edict Vespasian issued on discussing the turmoil of the Year of the Four Emperors and then look at the things Agricola focsed on in the years he was here. I think Roman soucres have been written to deliberately obfuscate and Cartamunda was probably who he was discussing re: Boudicca.
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Not your fault but I'd look at Cartamundia and look at the edict Vespasian issued on discussing the turmoil of the Year of the Four Emperors and then look at the things Agricola focsed on in the years he was here. I think Roman soucres have been written to deliberately obfuscate and Cartamunda was probably who he was discussing re: Boudicca.
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Kalo
The stirring speech attributed to Calgacus in the History by the roman writer Tacitus is pure fiction and a typical set speech employed by ancient historians like Thucydides to ornament their narratives. Anyway Calgacus is supposed to be the first scotsman of whom we know the name!
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The stirring speech attributed to Calgacus in the History by the roman writer Tacitus is pure fiction and a typical set speech employed by ancient historians like Thucydides to ornament their narratives. Anyway Calgacus is supposed to be the first scotsman of whom we know the name!
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Andy
The summary at the end is quite wrong. The Scots and the name hail from the Scotti of the west who spoke Gallic, not Pictish or whatever those people called it. Not a bad wee vid but the summary was obviously rushed and therefore inaccurate.
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The summary at the end is quite wrong. The Scots and the name hail from the Scotti of the west who spoke Gallic, not Pictish or whatever those people called it. Not a bad wee vid but the summary was obviously rushed and therefore inaccurate.
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David
Great video's so far! Do you think you could possibly do a video on Clontarf, since lent and Eater is coming it may be appropriate: ) Or maybe the skirmishes and battles of the Ulster tribes and the Vikings? Keep up the great work!
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Great video's so far! Do you think you could possibly do a video on Clontarf, since lent and Eater is coming it may be appropriate: ) Or maybe the skirmishes and battles of the Ulster tribes and the Vikings? Keep up the great work!
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Palestinian
Not just Scots some of us Aussies can still trace that lineage too some of the Noble lines Kings Lairds etc their descendants went all over the world.
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Not just Scots some of us Aussies can still trace that lineage too some of the Noble lines Kings Lairds etc their descendants went all over the world.
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No.
I got here (and learned something) looking for the piece of music 'Calgacus' by Edward McGuire. fantastic bagpipes by Robert Wallace at the end.
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I got here (and learned something) looking for the piece of music 'Calgacus' by Edward McGuire. fantastic bagpipes by Robert Wallace at the end.
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justin
I'm so glad I found you. it's so hard to find good dark age history in detail. I discovered you thru History with Hilbert.
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I'm so glad I found you. it's so hard to find good dark age history in detail. I discovered you thru History with Hilbert.
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