Everything That Went Wrong for The Alamo to Happen
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Date: 2022-12-29
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Stan
I have been an avid Alamo fan, collector, and study of this battle for the better part of 40 years. Many people reference Col. David Crockett as Davy which was never his nickname. a matter of factual history is that he despised being called Davy. he never wore a Coon Skin Cap. Another misnomer was that Col. Travis lasted for most of the battle, this was not the case, but it does make for great movie magic. Col. Travis was killed shortly after the beginning of the siege of the Alamo, by looking over the North Wall a young Mexican Soldier accidentally misfired his weapon, hitting Col. Travis in the front of his forehead, most certainly killing him instantly. Now here in the recent past, many historians are now attempting to say that David Crockett and his fighting Tennesseans were not killed in the Battle of the Alamo, but surrendered to Santa Anna and were later taken to Mexico and imprisoned. However, one of the only known survivors who returned to the Alamo after the battle, Juan Seguin supposedly stated that David Crockett and his fighting Tennesseans laid dead near the Chapel inside the Alamo. fighting to the very last man.
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I have been an avid Alamo fan, collector, and study of this battle for the better part of 40 years. Many people reference Col. David Crockett as Davy which was never his nickname. a matter of factual history is that he despised being called Davy. he never wore a Coon Skin Cap. Another misnomer was that Col. Travis lasted for most of the battle, this was not the case, but it does make for great movie magic. Col. Travis was killed shortly after the beginning of the siege of the Alamo, by looking over the North Wall a young Mexican Soldier accidentally misfired his weapon, hitting Col. Travis in the front of his forehead, most certainly killing him instantly. Now here in the recent past, many historians are now attempting to say that David Crockett and his fighting Tennesseans were not killed in the Battle of the Alamo, but surrendered to Santa Anna and were later taken to Mexico and imprisoned. However, one of the only known survivors who returned to the Alamo after the battle, Juan Seguin supposedly stated that David Crockett and his fighting Tennesseans laid dead near the Chapel inside the Alamo. fighting to the very last man.
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education
It is a false claim that the Texans were fighting for slavery. Let me refer you to the Texas State Historical Association and the work of Lewis W Kemp, noted Texas historian.
Reference a letter from William Bennett Scates, signer of the Texas Declaration of Independence & Constitution. Combat veteran of San Jacinto, battle of Bexar, Anahuac & Velasco. Who knew both William Barrett Travis & Jim Bowie.
On page 26, of a letter to Texas, Scates states, : When I went into the army I had fine stock of goods and was quite independent. When I left the army at the end of the war, I was almost naked and without a dollar. The record shows that by 1840, Scates would own 150 acres of land in Texas, possibly from marriage or finally some kind of payment from Texas for his military service. Texans wanted freedom and independence and they earned it the hard way.
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It is a false claim that the Texans were fighting for slavery. Let me refer you to the Texas State Historical Association and the work of Lewis W Kemp, noted Texas historian.
Reference a letter from William Bennett Scates, signer of the Texas Declaration of Independence & Constitution. Combat veteran of San Jacinto, battle of Bexar, Anahuac & Velasco. Who knew both William Barrett Travis & Jim Bowie.
On page 26, of a letter to Texas, Scates states, : When I went into the army I had fine stock of goods and was quite independent. When I left the army at the end of the war, I was almost naked and without a dollar. The record shows that by 1840, Scates would own 150 acres of land in Texas, possibly from marriage or finally some kind of payment from Texas for his military service. Texans wanted freedom and independence and they earned it the hard way.
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Michael
What about Goliad? Had the 500 at Goliad, and their canons arrived earlier in the preparations the Alamo would have been a siege that would have been impossible with 1, 500 men. In fact the Mexicans had nearly 5, 000 at their disposal, and they would have needed every one. A retreating force of Travis, Fannin, Bowie, and Crocket could have, fought their way to the heights some 10-12 miles away, and made a stand their, and Santa Anna would have needed 10, 000 men to dislodge them. The error of the Alamo, on both sides was pride, but, ended in the freedom of Texas, so one might say, the deaths of the 188 was worth the price of freedom and independence. What would America be without Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California? The Alamo put that time line in motion, and that end result.
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What about Goliad? Had the 500 at Goliad, and their canons arrived earlier in the preparations the Alamo would have been a siege that would have been impossible with 1, 500 men. In fact the Mexicans had nearly 5, 000 at their disposal, and they would have needed every one. A retreating force of Travis, Fannin, Bowie, and Crocket could have, fought their way to the heights some 10-12 miles away, and made a stand their, and Santa Anna would have needed 10, 000 men to dislodge them. The error of the Alamo, on both sides was pride, but, ended in the freedom of Texas, so one might say, the deaths of the 188 was worth the price of freedom and independence. What would America be without Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California? The Alamo put that time line in motion, and that end result.
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Lisa
Would love to hear about the revolutionary war and how they natives were involved, and how it affected them. Maine and Massachusetts were one on state at that point (Im from NH so dont understand this geography) theres also a story of a Passamaquoddy tribe member shoot an arrow out a quarter mile of the coast of Maine and took out a captain of the oncoming British ship during the war.
Got to visit the Alamo-thank you for this history of it. It is in a very odd downtown location now but the history is alone within it
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Would love to hear about the revolutionary war and how they natives were involved, and how it affected them. Maine and Massachusetts were one on state at that point (Im from NH so dont understand this geography) theres also a story of a Passamaquoddy tribe member shoot an arrow out a quarter mile of the coast of Maine and took out a captain of the oncoming British ship during the war.
Got to visit the Alamo-thank you for this history of it. It is in a very odd downtown location now but the history is alone within it
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richpontone1
You know what the mistakes were?
Having pictures of American soldiers circa 1917 and letting the viewers think that they were at the Alamo.
Finally, it was Sam Houston, getting Santa Anna to foolishly divide his Army and then attacking in a surprise manner at San Jacinto which destroyed the Mexican Army and forced Santa Anna to surrender.
Fyi, Mexico had abolished Slavery in 1830 and the Freedom Loving Texians were fighting to own Slaves.
Fyi, they were called Texians.
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You know what the mistakes were?
Having pictures of American soldiers circa 1917 and letting the viewers think that they were at the Alamo.
Finally, it was Sam Houston, getting Santa Anna to foolishly divide his Army and then attacking in a surprise manner at San Jacinto which destroyed the Mexican Army and forced Santa Anna to surrender.
Fyi, Mexico had abolished Slavery in 1830 and the Freedom Loving Texians were fighting to own Slaves.
Fyi, they were called Texians.
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George
Most of the settlers were not slave holders. Texas was too dangerous a place to take expensive slaves. Texas was only nominally Mexican land. There were only 5, 000 Hispanics in Texas in 1830 (Mexican census figure, and most of them originated in Spain, not in Mexico. There were as many bears as Hispanics. There were 30, 000 Americans by 1836. There was only one Catholic priest in all of Texas, so the Mex government knew quite well few settlers were practicing Catholics.
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Most of the settlers were not slave holders. Texas was too dangerous a place to take expensive slaves. Texas was only nominally Mexican land. There were only 5, 000 Hispanics in Texas in 1830 (Mexican census figure, and most of them originated in Spain, not in Mexico. There were as many bears as Hispanics. There were 30, 000 Americans by 1836. There was only one Catholic priest in all of Texas, so the Mex government knew quite well few settlers were practicing Catholics.
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John
So many mistakes and missing information for a start how did the Texans get the Alamo just walked in? Did Davy Crocket ever get their? What about the 32 from Gonzales? Why did Santa Anna not move earlier? Bowie lost his wife and daughters much earlier but maybe it is their ghosts who were there. If you are going to inform folks then at least try to get the information right at this rate its a wonder Custer and the Seventh did not turn up.
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So many mistakes and missing information for a start how did the Texans get the Alamo just walked in? Did Davy Crocket ever get their? What about the 32 from Gonzales? Why did Santa Anna not move earlier? Bowie lost his wife and daughters much earlier but maybe it is their ghosts who were there. If you are going to inform folks then at least try to get the information right at this rate its a wonder Custer and the Seventh did not turn up.
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Outdoor
Didn't they disobey orders, Houston said, destroy the Alamo and take the cannon? Also I notice I have never read or heard where the Texans sent out scouts to see what was coming up. The figured Santa Anna would stay home. As for slavery they needed figure out a system of cheap labor, like share cropping or prisoners working. It is a crop that needs cheap labor. Also Mexico invited people to come to TX and settle.
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Didn't they disobey orders, Houston said, destroy the Alamo and take the cannon? Also I notice I have never read or heard where the Texans sent out scouts to see what was coming up. The figured Santa Anna would stay home. As for slavery they needed figure out a system of cheap labor, like share cropping or prisoners working. It is a crop that needs cheap labor. Also Mexico invited people to come to TX and settle.
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Rusty
Not bad but got some facts wrong. Failed to mention for one, of the contract of 1824. Made all the difference. Also didn't mention the battle in 1835 in which the Texans ran the Mexican soldiers out and the Texans took posession. Another falacy. the building the narrator refers to as the Alamo, is the chapel of the Fort. The Fort was called the Alamo, not the building. And a few more gaffs.
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Not bad but got some facts wrong. Failed to mention for one, of the contract of 1824. Made all the difference. Also didn't mention the battle in 1835 in which the Texans ran the Mexican soldiers out and the Texans took posession. Another falacy. the building the narrator refers to as the Alamo, is the chapel of the Fort. The Fort was called the Alamo, not the building. And a few more gaffs.
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blackberrymidnight
I am not American. But I had heard of this fight and that Americans were proud of it. But doesn't this video show Americans broke promises or outright lied to get into Mexico, and when called out for it they fought back? And then despite losing this battle I assume they won others because they then took Texas? As in stole it from Mexico? I assume I must be missing a lot.
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I am not American. But I had heard of this fight and that Americans were proud of it. But doesn't this video show Americans broke promises or outright lied to get into Mexico, and when called out for it they fought back? And then despite losing this battle I assume they won others because they then took Texas? As in stole it from Mexico? I assume I must be missing a lot.
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John
I grew up a Davy Crockett fan I am 68 now
So many stories about that battle
It seems to me those men believed Sam Houston was coming back with over 5, 000 men to defeat Sanata
But he never returned
Davy was not the sort of man to let a army surround him.
So it seems these 185 men fighting for their lives
Had Sam returned the outcome would have been a victory
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I grew up a Davy Crockett fan I am 68 now
So many stories about that battle
It seems to me those men believed Sam Houston was coming back with over 5, 000 men to defeat Sanata
But he never returned
Davy was not the sort of man to let a army surround him.
So it seems these 185 men fighting for their lives
Had Sam returned the outcome would have been a victory
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Danica
Ha ha! Whities were the illegal immigrants! What bothers me the most is the constant use of flags saying Come and take it from people that have no clue where that came from. Lastly, the Alamo is well cared for in the center of town and while there was a mall there at one point that is now gone. The very old and hauntedhotels next-door and the merchants are all there.
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Ha ha! Whities were the illegal immigrants! What bothers me the most is the constant use of flags saying Come and take it from people that have no clue where that came from. Lastly, the Alamo is well cared for in the center of town and while there was a mall there at one point that is now gone. The very old and hauntedhotels next-door and the merchants are all there.
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Jsports2012
lol. What slanted, pejorative presentation. The dictator Santa Ana wasnt a conservative. He was an authoritarian, with much more in common, in terms of political philosophy, with todays Marxist left, including the American Left. Its true that some of the new Texans had slaves but to present this as essentially about slavery is extremely misleading. Be better
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lol. What slanted, pejorative presentation. The dictator Santa Ana wasnt a conservative. He was an authoritarian, with much more in common, in terms of political philosophy, with todays Marxist left, including the American Left. Its true that some of the new Texans had slaves but to present this as essentially about slavery is extremely misleading. Be better
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Gilberto
How can you be so hypocritical? Did they die bravely defending their country? which country? All were North American immigrants who were granted permission by the Mexican government to live in Texas. They abused the trust given to them and took land that did not belong to them. They were just a bunch of filibusters.
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How can you be so hypocritical? Did they die bravely defending their country? which country? All were North American immigrants who were granted permission by the Mexican government to live in Texas. They abused the trust given to them and took land that did not belong to them. They were just a bunch of filibusters.
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Sam
Why is it showing pictures from the Mexican revolution for the Texas war of independence? Also what you forget to mention is the treaty that Austin signed with the Spanish in the 1820s for that land and the promise of the Mexican government of 1824, this is why they have the 1824 flag at the Alamo
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Why is it showing pictures from the Mexican revolution for the Texas war of independence? Also what you forget to mention is the treaty that Austin signed with the Spanish in the 1820s for that land and the promise of the Mexican government of 1824, this is why they have the 1824 flag at the Alamo
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Keenan
The amount of America bad No, America good arguments happening here. listen, Texas was a Mexican state at the time, American settlers stole land that didn't belong to them, and brought slaves into a slave-free Mexico. No matter how you slice it, the American settlers were the aggressors here.
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The amount of America bad No, America good arguments happening here. listen, Texas was a Mexican state at the time, American settlers stole land that didn't belong to them, and brought slaves into a slave-free Mexico. No matter how you slice it, the American settlers were the aggressors here.
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druid799
So the actual truth of the matter was the the poor oppressed Texan settlers were actually illegal immigrants who stole Mexican land, ignored Mexican laws and refused to leave the land they had illegally occupied when asked too by the legitimate owners of the land? Just checking.
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So the actual truth of the matter was the the poor oppressed Texan settlers were actually illegal immigrants who stole Mexican land, ignored Mexican laws and refused to leave the land they had illegally occupied when asked too by the legitimate owners of the land? Just checking.
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Fizkall
So many deaths. As much as i love America, the fact its built by dead bodies urks me and gives me sadness. They werent even at the right, settlers who took lands and claim its for freedom, freedom to kill and claim? Im not to pleased in remembering Alamo, even as a Texan
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So many deaths. As much as i love America, the fact its built by dead bodies urks me and gives me sadness. They werent even at the right, settlers who took lands and claim its for freedom, freedom to kill and claim? Im not to pleased in remembering Alamo, even as a Texan
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Steven
The story's not over! when General Sam Houston found out the Alamo has been taken he formed an army and hunted down General Santa Anna it ended at the Battle of San Jacinto is where it ended
it'd be nice if you would continue the story with the battle of San Jacinto.
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The story's not over! when General Sam Houston found out the Alamo has been taken he formed an army and hunted down General Santa Anna it ended at the Battle of San Jacinto is where it ended
it'd be nice if you would continue the story with the battle of San Jacinto.
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OnTheRoadWithTEX
There are a LOT of misstatements and errors in this video. the list is long. Considering that it was posted 18 months ago, that the last post was a year ago, and I can't decide which error is the worst, I think I'll pass on listing the mistakes.
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There are a LOT of misstatements and errors in this video. the list is long. Considering that it was posted 18 months ago, that the last post was a year ago, and I can't decide which error is the worst, I think I'll pass on listing the mistakes.
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