The PLUS SIZE Model Controversy. are men ashamed? - Blogilates
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Date: 2022-04-28
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Sterling
Here is some truth for men and woman. Men are focused on goals. As a man I want to support my gf. love her. and get a house. MEN WORK. If I can work and have my gf at home with the kids (which is what she wants. no, im not the misogynist asshole you assumed. Most men do not care about how we look because we do not expect men to judge us cause we do not. If a guy is bald we do not fixate on it like how women judge other womens looks.
A girl told me women dress for themselves, and to impress other women-not men.
Well men do not have expectations to look a certain way; hence we focus on more important things.
Men are also told to focus more on personality rather than looks.
I think men and women have certain expectations for eachother. Men want a woman who is young and beautiful. Women want a man who is a provider, and goal oriented. Obviously this is not what men and women expect everytime for every individual.
lots of men love there wives so much they would labor hard for them, because taking care of babies is very hard (since most women do it while men are working) Again I am not a misogynist. There is nothing wrong with a man working wanting to take care of his wife if she is a stay-at-home mom. Men want to do whatever they can to make her life easier when a man is serious about a woman. This is accomplished by goals. How we look means nothing. We have the love of our life we do not need to impress anyone lol.
With 5 years of dating my girlfriend-Ill share this:
For men(understanding a woman)
1. Women need to feel understood.
Let her vent
Validate her feelings
Dont try to solve the problem, rather
focus and listen.
2. Women need to feel seen
regularly express what appreciate about her (women need to hear the words from your mouth bro because if you didnt say it then they cant confirm it)
leave eletronic devices out of the bedroom and giver her your undivided attention
take time to notice what usually go unnoticed (women love it when a man can focus on the little changes she has made to herself, or to the house)
3. Women need to feel safe
Make decisions and stand by them. Women can feel unsafe with people who are wushu-washy.
put your woman first. meaning show her you are her priority.
take care of her. be the rock! which means be reliable. (women love a man with a path in life. and when they feel cared for)
For women (understanding men)
1. Men need to feel appreciated
stop for a moment a think about what your man brings to the table and what he has done for you. praise him sincerely. (men NEVER get compliments from women which makes the ones they do get memorable for years)
Boast about him to others like friends and family
Celebrate small victories
2. Men need to feel free
Give ownership to your man. do not micromanage every little thing.
Ask him for his input. Show you value his opinion.
Encourage him. (what makes you happy makes me happy)
3. Men need to feel opened up to
step into your femininity. be warm, open, and affectionate
whatever you love doing express it with him. thats what he loves about you.
Congrats you have made it to the LAST IMPORTANT PART:
Always communicate, and if you ARGUE never ever ever go to bed angry. Fight, makeup, kiss, and cuddle. This is the secret.
Understand flaws are okay. People are not perfect.
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Here is some truth for men and woman. Men are focused on goals. As a man I want to support my gf. love her. and get a house. MEN WORK. If I can work and have my gf at home with the kids (which is what she wants. no, im not the misogynist asshole you assumed. Most men do not care about how we look because we do not expect men to judge us cause we do not. If a guy is bald we do not fixate on it like how women judge other womens looks.
A girl told me women dress for themselves, and to impress other women-not men.
Well men do not have expectations to look a certain way; hence we focus on more important things.
Men are also told to focus more on personality rather than looks.
I think men and women have certain expectations for eachother. Men want a woman who is young and beautiful. Women want a man who is a provider, and goal oriented. Obviously this is not what men and women expect everytime for every individual.
lots of men love there wives so much they would labor hard for them, because taking care of babies is very hard (since most women do it while men are working) Again I am not a misogynist. There is nothing wrong with a man working wanting to take care of his wife if she is a stay-at-home mom. Men want to do whatever they can to make her life easier when a man is serious about a woman. This is accomplished by goals. How we look means nothing. We have the love of our life we do not need to impress anyone lol.
With 5 years of dating my girlfriend-Ill share this:
For men(understanding a woman)
1. Women need to feel understood.
Let her vent
Validate her feelings
Dont try to solve the problem, rather
focus and listen.
2. Women need to feel seen
regularly express what appreciate about her (women need to hear the words from your mouth bro because if you didnt say it then they cant confirm it)
leave eletronic devices out of the bedroom and giver her your undivided attention
take time to notice what usually go unnoticed (women love it when a man can focus on the little changes she has made to herself, or to the house)
3. Women need to feel safe
Make decisions and stand by them. Women can feel unsafe with people who are wushu-washy.
put your woman first. meaning show her you are her priority.
take care of her. be the rock! which means be reliable. (women love a man with a path in life. and when they feel cared for)
For women (understanding men)
1. Men need to feel appreciated
stop for a moment a think about what your man brings to the table and what he has done for you. praise him sincerely. (men NEVER get compliments from women which makes the ones they do get memorable for years)
Boast about him to others like friends and family
Celebrate small victories
2. Men need to feel free
Give ownership to your man. do not micromanage every little thing.
Ask him for his input. Show you value his opinion.
Encourage him. (what makes you happy makes me happy)
3. Men need to feel opened up to
step into your femininity. be warm, open, and affectionate
whatever you love doing express it with him. thats what he loves about you.
Congrats you have made it to the LAST IMPORTANT PART:
Always communicate, and if you ARGUE never ever ever go to bed angry. Fight, makeup, kiss, and cuddle. This is the secret.
Understand flaws are okay. People are not perfect.
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Kath
I think the average man truly doesn't care too much about his looks. Nontheless, I do believe that the plus sized or short models could be a good input in modern society.
I believe, that one of the reasons for the male disinterest in body shaming in itself is, because it is a more modern problem. The huge spread of this topic is definitely influenced by social media but not caused.
The ideal of the feminine and masculine appearance is passed on through society and in private. It also changes occasionally. I believe that in general it is always an ideal of affluence.
Currently this means maintaining a healthy and sporty lifestyle. But things may look different again in thirty years.
But let's come back to the secandary topic Do men need body positivity.
Therefore we need to understand that the majority of women is very sensitive concerning how they look like. But only a few men.
My brother (plus sized his whole life) recently told me, that many men are simply not aware of their appearance in that way. Mainly because they are more likely to be defined by other values.
But he did emphasized that body shaming had increased in recent years. And male body prosetivity might therefore become important in the next few years.
In addition, I want to point out that I do support a varying in male models/department store dolls.
Manly, because men whose figure is not the current ideal wear inappropriate clothing. Which simply does not flatter anyones figure. When you wear the advertised fashion, you quickly look like squeezed sausages; because the clothing is made in a certain way.
Which is why many people (especially men) are starting to buy things, mostly plain or strange, in the size of a tent. But then you start looking like a sack with a head and hands.
All in all, I would say that the point for men would not be a body positivity. More important is an advertising for male vivid fashion of all shapes and sizes.
Every men (and also every woman) can look good or even handsome if he appears neat and dressed appropriately.
Please excuse the length of my comment. But I really wanted to say this.
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I think the average man truly doesn't care too much about his looks. Nontheless, I do believe that the plus sized or short models could be a good input in modern society.
I believe, that one of the reasons for the male disinterest in body shaming in itself is, because it is a more modern problem. The huge spread of this topic is definitely influenced by social media but not caused.
The ideal of the feminine and masculine appearance is passed on through society and in private. It also changes occasionally. I believe that in general it is always an ideal of affluence.
Currently this means maintaining a healthy and sporty lifestyle. But things may look different again in thirty years.
But let's come back to the secandary topic Do men need body positivity.
Therefore we need to understand that the majority of women is very sensitive concerning how they look like. But only a few men.
My brother (plus sized his whole life) recently told me, that many men are simply not aware of their appearance in that way. Mainly because they are more likely to be defined by other values.
But he did emphasized that body shaming had increased in recent years. And male body prosetivity might therefore become important in the next few years.
In addition, I want to point out that I do support a varying in male models/department store dolls.
Manly, because men whose figure is not the current ideal wear inappropriate clothing. Which simply does not flatter anyones figure. When you wear the advertised fashion, you quickly look like squeezed sausages; because the clothing is made in a certain way.
Which is why many people (especially men) are starting to buy things, mostly plain or strange, in the size of a tent. But then you start looking like a sack with a head and hands.
All in all, I would say that the point for men would not be a body positivity. More important is an advertising for male vivid fashion of all shapes and sizes.
Every men (and also every woman) can look good or even handsome if he appears neat and dressed appropriately.
Please excuse the length of my comment. But I really wanted to say this.
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Benny
Hey so I'm a trans guy so growing up I've experienced some if the pressures facing women and body image and now identifying as male it's interesting to see the differences.
I think with male models, they're almost treated as their own entity. Being buff or super lean isn't seen as realistic so we can better separate ourselves from what we see. It's they're job to look good, the average guy isn't gonna be able to work out for hours a day. Whereas, with female models, the body types shown are seen as a goal leading to comparisons between body types and a lot of women having decreased self-esteem that they 'failed' to work their body to that point.
That's not to say it doesn't affect us. It could be the dysphoria or depression but I've had a rough relationship with my body, even leading to unhealthy behaviours like using weight loss pills when I didn't even know what they were or my relationship with food almost developing to that of an eating disorder. And I've had weight issues but I've never been obese or had any issues relating to health or fitness. I've tried getting steroids from God knows where on the internet to get more buff and I know of men that have gotten into really dangerous situations doing the same. A lot of bodybuilders dehydrate themselves to the point of death to have that ripped figure for competition. There is some pressure in the LGBT community to have an attractive body. Within those niches where men's bodies are being scrutinised, body dysmorphia, eating disorders, substance abuse and general negative relationships with your body are definitely more prominent though no one ever speaks about it.
I can't speak for any other men than myself and my experiences. I'm only 17 and started transitioning not too long ago so you could argue that my experiences are limited. That's just my thoughts though I'd love to hear what other trans people have experienced with body image. If bodybuilders or avid gym-goers have experienced the same as me or something completely different. I'd love to hear it.
Sorry for the long-ass comment but I appreciate any input or corrections if I've said anything wrong. Thanks
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Hey so I'm a trans guy so growing up I've experienced some if the pressures facing women and body image and now identifying as male it's interesting to see the differences.
I think with male models, they're almost treated as their own entity. Being buff or super lean isn't seen as realistic so we can better separate ourselves from what we see. It's they're job to look good, the average guy isn't gonna be able to work out for hours a day. Whereas, with female models, the body types shown are seen as a goal leading to comparisons between body types and a lot of women having decreased self-esteem that they 'failed' to work their body to that point.
That's not to say it doesn't affect us. It could be the dysphoria or depression but I've had a rough relationship with my body, even leading to unhealthy behaviours like using weight loss pills when I didn't even know what they were or my relationship with food almost developing to that of an eating disorder. And I've had weight issues but I've never been obese or had any issues relating to health or fitness. I've tried getting steroids from God knows where on the internet to get more buff and I know of men that have gotten into really dangerous situations doing the same. A lot of bodybuilders dehydrate themselves to the point of death to have that ripped figure for competition. There is some pressure in the LGBT community to have an attractive body. Within those niches where men's bodies are being scrutinised, body dysmorphia, eating disorders, substance abuse and general negative relationships with your body are definitely more prominent though no one ever speaks about it.
I can't speak for any other men than myself and my experiences. I'm only 17 and started transitioning not too long ago so you could argue that my experiences are limited. That's just my thoughts though I'd love to hear what other trans people have experienced with body image. If bodybuilders or avid gym-goers have experienced the same as me or something completely different. I'd love to hear it.
Sorry for the long-ass comment but I appreciate any input or corrections if I've said anything wrong. Thanks
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Grace
I'm just going to put the truth out here. Most men don't get as emotional about their bodies like women do. Its true that women get easily insecure about their bodies than men do. I'm not sure if there would have been different sizes of mannequins in stores if it wasn't for the body shaming movement that has been going on among women. The movement seems to be very strong in America cause in my country there are hardly any mannequins for plus size women. I've never seen a single plus size mannequin in any store since I was born and people don't seem to care so much. We don't think too much about our bodies that way and women who are fat are accepted and aren't criticized so much especially women who are married and have given birth. Body shaming isn't a big problem here and we have funny names we call people who are too fat and people who are too thin. I'm not saying it's a good thing but it's not taken seriously.
And one thing I'll never understand is why no one cared about Rick Ross who goes shirtless in all his videos and yet when Lizzo became popular everyone kept praising her for being brave. It was her body that made me discover Lizzo and that's not how it should be. We shouldnt care about such things. And what's the big deal about being called fat anyway. Its the truth. If you're fat, you're fat. It only becomes a problem when you get all sensitive about. I've been called fat plenty of times. There are many fat girls around me and they all look confident, they dress well even better than some skinny girls.
As it is right now it's looks like an offence to say that a person is fat because people will accuse you of fat shaming. I don't think that's okay. Truth is truth. But that you're fat doesn't mean that you're ugly, it just means that you're fat, that's it.
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I'm just going to put the truth out here. Most men don't get as emotional about their bodies like women do. Its true that women get easily insecure about their bodies than men do. I'm not sure if there would have been different sizes of mannequins in stores if it wasn't for the body shaming movement that has been going on among women. The movement seems to be very strong in America cause in my country there are hardly any mannequins for plus size women. I've never seen a single plus size mannequin in any store since I was born and people don't seem to care so much. We don't think too much about our bodies that way and women who are fat are accepted and aren't criticized so much especially women who are married and have given birth. Body shaming isn't a big problem here and we have funny names we call people who are too fat and people who are too thin. I'm not saying it's a good thing but it's not taken seriously.
And one thing I'll never understand is why no one cared about Rick Ross who goes shirtless in all his videos and yet when Lizzo became popular everyone kept praising her for being brave. It was her body that made me discover Lizzo and that's not how it should be. We shouldnt care about such things. And what's the big deal about being called fat anyway. Its the truth. If you're fat, you're fat. It only becomes a problem when you get all sensitive about. I've been called fat plenty of times. There are many fat girls around me and they all look confident, they dress well even better than some skinny girls.
As it is right now it's looks like an offence to say that a person is fat because people will accuse you of fat shaming. I don't think that's okay. Truth is truth. But that you're fat doesn't mean that you're ugly, it just means that you're fat, that's it.
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The
As a guy I think there are some things you get right about male body positivity and some things you get wrong. Sure, guys don't like to point out or talk about our insecurities, but their are reasons for this.
First I want to point out that their is a distinct difference between feeling insecure about things we can change and things we can't. Many men who are overweight like myself don't like to feel encouragement about that. I've been losing weight bit by bit and have to force my wife to stop making me feel too comfortable with where I am so I can stay motivated on my goal. Most men know that they are making an active choice to not lose weight and don't need a pat on the back for being lazy.
Then their are the things we can't change like height and hair loss. Those two things are major points of insecurity for men. We gain absolutely nothing by talking about these things because they can't be changed, so what would be accomplished? Having women try to console us about these things would just come off as patronizing unless it's from a wife or close relative. Especially since most women are attracted to tall guys with hair so it just comes off as pointless lip service. Men and the body positive movement just don't mesh. Not unless women are going to suddenly start dating portly short balding men over tall fit men with full heads of hair as a result.
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As a guy I think there are some things you get right about male body positivity and some things you get wrong. Sure, guys don't like to point out or talk about our insecurities, but their are reasons for this.
First I want to point out that their is a distinct difference between feeling insecure about things we can change and things we can't. Many men who are overweight like myself don't like to feel encouragement about that. I've been losing weight bit by bit and have to force my wife to stop making me feel too comfortable with where I am so I can stay motivated on my goal. Most men know that they are making an active choice to not lose weight and don't need a pat on the back for being lazy.
Then their are the things we can't change like height and hair loss. Those two things are major points of insecurity for men. We gain absolutely nothing by talking about these things because they can't be changed, so what would be accomplished? Having women try to console us about these things would just come off as patronizing unless it's from a wife or close relative. Especially since most women are attracted to tall guys with hair so it just comes off as pointless lip service. Men and the body positive movement just don't mesh. Not unless women are going to suddenly start dating portly short balding men over tall fit men with full heads of hair as a result.
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AJ
No lies here excellent video. Just to add now male body beauty standards is weird and dynamic. In society, some men and women have a bad connotation towards the bodybuilding types of mehn (this also occurs with women ). The ideal body type portrayed is usually lean men with athletic profiles similar to soccer players or track and field athletes. Now body idealism in males has actually seem some growth but very little. Bigger body types like body builders and bigger muscle men in general have been accepted by the modelling industry. There is still a common denominators here, men with low body fat percentage or lean, muscly or skinny frames are acceptable. There has been any sort of move towards mehn that can be considered chubby or high body fat. Hollywood has a part to play in this, a very big part. Whether people seemingly know this or aren't aware of this, Hollywood has portrayed what many will consider average looking males with average or less than average body types acquiring women with society's ideal concepts of beauty. Basically society has said an average Joe can get the most beautiful women according to society standards while with women no such concept was ever made. Often I see man of all shapes and sizes getting married to women with society's ideal body types. while for women they often go unmarried or with men of similar body types.
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No lies here excellent video. Just to add now male body beauty standards is weird and dynamic. In society, some men and women have a bad connotation towards the bodybuilding types of mehn (this also occurs with women ). The ideal body type portrayed is usually lean men with athletic profiles similar to soccer players or track and field athletes. Now body idealism in males has actually seem some growth but very little. Bigger body types like body builders and bigger muscle men in general have been accepted by the modelling industry. There is still a common denominators here, men with low body fat percentage or lean, muscly or skinny frames are acceptable. There has been any sort of move towards mehn that can be considered chubby or high body fat. Hollywood has a part to play in this, a very big part. Whether people seemingly know this or aren't aware of this, Hollywood has portrayed what many will consider average looking males with average or less than average body types acquiring women with society's ideal concepts of beauty. Basically society has said an average Joe can get the most beautiful women according to society standards while with women no such concept was ever made. Often I see man of all shapes and sizes getting married to women with society's ideal body types. while for women they often go unmarried or with men of similar body types.
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Maniacworld98
To be honest it just depends on the men and how they think: / not all men are able to grow up showing their emotions and not meant really to compare themselves constantly like us women are, society tells women u always have to look this way. Men think wow that looks cool I wanna look cool but if you ask men who are more sensitive and are in more in tone with their emotions they would be more willing to be seeing other mannequins and possibly have thought of it. (NOT SAYING ALL of them) bc it is hard to see what u look good in if ur more on the obese side when theyre is only muscular men. I definitely I feel like just depends on the guy and how they view their body, and men are more like to be the guy who takes cares of us women so their focus isnt always on body image I think its more acceptable if a man is fat over women (IN AMERICA this definitely wouldnt be the case in Asia I think. maybe men over there have more of an opinion! Maybe culture have different view points too) - as to me I never even really cared about women mannequins to be honest it never came to my head either! like when you asked one of the guys they never thought about it but would nice, thats same for me and Im a girl even tho we have this body positivity for women so definitely a very interesting discussion topic! :)
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To be honest it just depends on the men and how they think: / not all men are able to grow up showing their emotions and not meant really to compare themselves constantly like us women are, society tells women u always have to look this way. Men think wow that looks cool I wanna look cool but if you ask men who are more sensitive and are in more in tone with their emotions they would be more willing to be seeing other mannequins and possibly have thought of it. (NOT SAYING ALL of them) bc it is hard to see what u look good in if ur more on the obese side when theyre is only muscular men. I definitely I feel like just depends on the guy and how they view their body, and men are more like to be the guy who takes cares of us women so their focus isnt always on body image I think its more acceptable if a man is fat over women (IN AMERICA this definitely wouldnt be the case in Asia I think. maybe men over there have more of an opinion! Maybe culture have different view points too) - as to me I never even really cared about women mannequins to be honest it never came to my head either! like when you asked one of the guys they never thought about it but would nice, thats same for me and Im a girl even tho we have this body positivity for women so definitely a very interesting discussion topic! :)
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McBenji07
My husband feels insecure about his body but he would not dare to be emotional about it in front of me. For men, the primary driver of shame is being perceived as weak. ( Dixit Brene Brown) I think admitting that they care about something, like the way they look, would fall into this category. My husband never admitted that he was dying his hair to hide signs of aging. When I told him that I knew he was doing it (I discovered the hair color products as I was cleaning our apartment, it was the first time in our 10-year long relationship that I saw him look so embarrassed / ashamed / humiliated. I felt so bad and regretted mentioning this issue so casually.
Men pretend not to care, but deep down, they are simply afraid to confront their insecurities heads on. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to face our fears. The ultimate fear when it comes to beauty and body image is being unlovable. Even if I am independent and do not need a man to take care of me, I still worry that as I age, I will become invisible.
Women, we are so lucky that we have developed the ability to be in touch with our emotions and to live with an open heart. What people call being over-emotional or caring too much is in reality our biggest asset!
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My husband feels insecure about his body but he would not dare to be emotional about it in front of me. For men, the primary driver of shame is being perceived as weak. ( Dixit Brene Brown) I think admitting that they care about something, like the way they look, would fall into this category. My husband never admitted that he was dying his hair to hide signs of aging. When I told him that I knew he was doing it (I discovered the hair color products as I was cleaning our apartment, it was the first time in our 10-year long relationship that I saw him look so embarrassed / ashamed / humiliated. I felt so bad and regretted mentioning this issue so casually.
Men pretend not to care, but deep down, they are simply afraid to confront their insecurities heads on. It takes a tremendous amount of courage to face our fears. The ultimate fear when it comes to beauty and body image is being unlovable. Even if I am independent and do not need a man to take care of me, I still worry that as I age, I will become invisible.
Women, we are so lucky that we have developed the ability to be in touch with our emotions and to live with an open heart. What people call being over-emotional or caring too much is in reality our biggest asset!
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Yudhisthira
I think in terms of maniquines and body positivity in ads, from what I feel and what I see in general consenes, men don't really care. It doesnt bother them the least.
But what they really care about is what people think about them and so its more important for us to change the general consensus of the society as a whole rather than the itty bitty things like models body sizes.
Cause at the end of the day in terms of clothes we just want the clothes to fit us and we'de just try it out and do a purchase based on that. But ofcourse sporting Idols or actors wearing a certain brand or design that impacts the purchase of that rather than the type of actor who wears that.
What men dont speak about is how people's perception of them or what people comment about them that actually affects them. And that has to be change we would like to see in terms of body positivity.
Ofcourse like women, men want to be desired thats where the rugged wrinkled look seems to be popular on top of the already stressful six pack men. But as well know its a matter of choice where most women also dont look at six packs or things like weight too much. That is the part most men don't know yet.
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I think in terms of maniquines and body positivity in ads, from what I feel and what I see in general consenes, men don't really care. It doesnt bother them the least.
But what they really care about is what people think about them and so its more important for us to change the general consensus of the society as a whole rather than the itty bitty things like models body sizes.
Cause at the end of the day in terms of clothes we just want the clothes to fit us and we'de just try it out and do a purchase based on that. But ofcourse sporting Idols or actors wearing a certain brand or design that impacts the purchase of that rather than the type of actor who wears that.
What men dont speak about is how people's perception of them or what people comment about them that actually affects them. And that has to be change we would like to see in terms of body positivity.
Ofcourse like women, men want to be desired thats where the rugged wrinkled look seems to be popular on top of the already stressful six pack men. But as well know its a matter of choice where most women also dont look at six packs or things like weight too much. That is the part most men don't know yet.
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Anna
Body awareness/insecurities seem to present differently for men and I think it is definitely because of the different societal pressures that you touched on, both historically and currently. Women's looks have long been their currency and worth in society when they were viewed as property, an asset. Not so much for men. I also think there are a lot of areas of life for our contemporary males that breed unhealthy habits. For anyone who was friends with wrestlers in high school knows that sport teaches boys to crash diet to make weigh-ins. I remember seeing the hydroxycut commercials on tv targeted to men too - the before and after photos of obese men becoming cut after taking those pills. So it's out there. It's just not the same. I wonder if it might be even more pernicious for some men though, because it's not openly talked about or at a level of consciousness that it is for women. Without a conversation or even conscious acknowledgement that what they are experiencing is body dysmorphia or disordered eating, a guy might think what he is doing is completely normal even when it is potentially damaging to his health.
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Body awareness/insecurities seem to present differently for men and I think it is definitely because of the different societal pressures that you touched on, both historically and currently. Women's looks have long been their currency and worth in society when they were viewed as property, an asset. Not so much for men. I also think there are a lot of areas of life for our contemporary males that breed unhealthy habits. For anyone who was friends with wrestlers in high school knows that sport teaches boys to crash diet to make weigh-ins. I remember seeing the hydroxycut commercials on tv targeted to men too - the before and after photos of obese men becoming cut after taking those pills. So it's out there. It's just not the same. I wonder if it might be even more pernicious for some men though, because it's not openly talked about or at a level of consciousness that it is for women. Without a conversation or even conscious acknowledgement that what they are experiencing is body dysmorphia or disordered eating, a guy might think what he is doing is completely normal even when it is potentially damaging to his health.
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