Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Part 2 Drive & Comparisons
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Date: 2019-05-30
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Allan
Nice review. Some things I would add: - You can adjust the steering in the dash. It can be softer or stiffer depending on your preference. - This is an understandable misconception, but easy to get used to: This is more of a giant cellphone on wheels, you dont take those to charge in public unless youre on a long trip or its an emergency. Most people drive under 30 miles in town 99 percent of the time. This means you have no need to visit a supercharger station, you just drive home every night, plug it when you need to - daily, weekly, whatever - and then wake up the next day with a full tank. One exception is apartments without upgraded parking lots, in their case they may need to top off for 15 minutes every once in a while shopping or grabbing coffee, charging the last 20 percent is a waste of time, so avoid unless youre actually driving out of town. - Those some minor repairs that can be done on site by a Tesla ranger comprise around 80 percent of cases on average. Theyll fix an issue for you while youre working or watching TV in the living room. There arent allot of moving parts in an EV compared to a legacy car, were talking around two orders of magnitude, theres little maintenance to speak of. So theres no allot that can go bad, most things are minor and can be fixed either by a ranger or over the air update.
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Nice review. Some things I would add: - You can adjust the steering in the dash. It can be softer or stiffer depending on your preference. - This is an understandable misconception, but easy to get used to: This is more of a giant cellphone on wheels, you dont take those to charge in public unless youre on a long trip or its an emergency. Most people drive under 30 miles in town 99 percent of the time. This means you have no need to visit a supercharger station, you just drive home every night, plug it when you need to - daily, weekly, whatever - and then wake up the next day with a full tank. One exception is apartments without upgraded parking lots, in their case they may need to top off for 15 minutes every once in a while shopping or grabbing coffee, charging the last 20 percent is a waste of time, so avoid unless youre actually driving out of town. - Those some minor repairs that can be done on site by a Tesla ranger comprise around 80 percent of cases on average. Theyll fix an issue for you while youre working or watching TV in the living room. There arent allot of moving parts in an EV compared to a legacy car, were talking around two orders of magnitude, theres little maintenance to speak of. So theres no allot that can go bad, most things are minor and can be fixed either by a ranger or over the air update.
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ARentz07
With respect to the BMW 340i versus Dual Motor Model 3 acceleration, Ill say this. Ive driven a 2014 335i, which has very similar acceleration to the 340i, and Ive also driven the Model 3 Dual Motor. The Dual Motor has this incredibly snappy acceleration, and honestly, it feels faster than the 335i. However, the 335i has a feeling of building speed that I think would make it more fun. Also, the 335i also has an engine sound, and a pretty good one. That said, the two cars handle quite similarly (at least in the limited test drives I had) at least in terms of steering feel and response, specifically in terms of the Sport mode in the 335i. Both turn in pretty readily, perhaps just a little more eagerly than the Lexus IS in my garage, albeit both were similarly numb. It would take me a while to get used to the regenerative braking in the 3, but if I did, I think itd be pretty nifty to have to use only one pedal. I liked the 3 a lot, particularly the simplicity of the interior, the steering response, and of course the acceleration. I am not sure Id want to own one due to the quality concerns and the maintenance question mark. I also place long-term reliability high on my list of important attributes in a car, which would also make it hard for me to choose the BMW.
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With respect to the BMW 340i versus Dual Motor Model 3 acceleration, Ill say this. Ive driven a 2014 335i, which has very similar acceleration to the 340i, and Ive also driven the Model 3 Dual Motor. The Dual Motor has this incredibly snappy acceleration, and honestly, it feels faster than the 335i. However, the 335i has a feeling of building speed that I think would make it more fun. Also, the 335i also has an engine sound, and a pretty good one. That said, the two cars handle quite similarly (at least in the limited test drives I had) at least in terms of steering feel and response, specifically in terms of the Sport mode in the 335i. Both turn in pretty readily, perhaps just a little more eagerly than the Lexus IS in my garage, albeit both were similarly numb. It would take me a while to get used to the regenerative braking in the 3, but if I did, I think itd be pretty nifty to have to use only one pedal. I liked the 3 a lot, particularly the simplicity of the interior, the steering response, and of course the acceleration. I am not sure Id want to own one due to the quality concerns and the maintenance question mark. I also place long-term reliability high on my list of important attributes in a car, which would also make it hard for me to choose the BMW.
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Air Chas
Hello Alex, Good Review, BUT. (and yes I have a Model 3) 1st If use Supercharger V2 (the one used now, taking a long trip you will spend 20 mins or less at a stop. But v3 FOR Supercharger is coming out and will cut that by 1/2 to 1/3rd(try that with the Kona. Alex take a long trip in your Model 3 and you will see not much difference between gas and supercharging, but you will see how screwed CCS DC fast chargers so few. 2nd: Cost of Ownership: 2-3 cents a mile for electricity and nothing for oil, filters. as for gas cars. Almost forgot you will need to take of tires for both. 3rd: Dog Mode, Sentry Mode, OTA updates make the Tesla better and better (5% more power recently. 4th: You are getting a Luxury Car for price of regular car for the 36k you spent. This should be a big PLUS 5th: Tesla (even in my state of Michigan) will come out to my car, pick it up and give me a loner and return it fixed under warranty or mobile service. Now outside of warranty well it is expensive but I think the cost is not more than other luxury car. Alex the total experience with a Tesla is different than ICE or other EV cars but it is light years ahead of anyone in market space. This was lacking from your review. Try better next time or re-do or addendum.
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Hello Alex, Good Review, BUT. (and yes I have a Model 3) 1st If use Supercharger V2 (the one used now, taking a long trip you will spend 20 mins or less at a stop. But v3 FOR Supercharger is coming out and will cut that by 1/2 to 1/3rd(try that with the Kona. Alex take a long trip in your Model 3 and you will see not much difference between gas and supercharging, but you will see how screwed CCS DC fast chargers so few. 2nd: Cost of Ownership: 2-3 cents a mile for electricity and nothing for oil, filters. as for gas cars. Almost forgot you will need to take of tires for both. 3rd: Dog Mode, Sentry Mode, OTA updates make the Tesla better and better (5% more power recently. 4th: You are getting a Luxury Car for price of regular car for the 36k you spent. This should be a big PLUS 5th: Tesla (even in my state of Michigan) will come out to my car, pick it up and give me a loner and return it fixed under warranty or mobile service. Now outside of warranty well it is expensive but I think the cost is not more than other luxury car. Alex the total experience with a Tesla is different than ICE or other EV cars but it is light years ahead of anyone in market space. This was lacking from your review. Try better next time or re-do or addendum.
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CAC
As always I get some new knowledge from your videos. I dont however agree on calling the model 3 a luxury car. For that, its build quality and lack of options are just to big. Regarding comparison with the Kona, while i do agree on the acces to the trunk is easier, the M3 actually have a bigger boot. And while I skipped the Kona due to its lack of space for adults on the backseats, the M3 does have plenty of that. The e-Niro will be a bigger competitor towards the M3 when talking about space, but the chance of getting one of those, are like winning the lottery. The lack of heatpump is a downer for me, living in Denmark it maybe not get freezing cold, but you need to heat the car at least 6 months of the year. And that will have an impact on effeciency. To bad the didnt go with that in the M3. Fun fact for all none danes. The price off a M3 perfomance with standard colour and rims are 87. 000. The BMW 3 I330 in base trim is 79. 500. But bying a BMW without adding anything extra will never happen. The M3 S+ with standard rims and colour is 58. 000 here, wich is 2-3. 000 more than a fully loaded Kona. We do love our taxes: D
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As always I get some new knowledge from your videos. I dont however agree on calling the model 3 a luxury car. For that, its build quality and lack of options are just to big. Regarding comparison with the Kona, while i do agree on the acces to the trunk is easier, the M3 actually have a bigger boot. And while I skipped the Kona due to its lack of space for adults on the backseats, the M3 does have plenty of that. The e-Niro will be a bigger competitor towards the M3 when talking about space, but the chance of getting one of those, are like winning the lottery. The lack of heatpump is a downer for me, living in Denmark it maybe not get freezing cold, but you need to heat the car at least 6 months of the year. And that will have an impact on effeciency. To bad the didnt go with that in the M3. Fun fact for all none danes. The price off a M3 perfomance with standard colour and rims are 87. 000. The BMW 3 I330 in base trim is 79. 500. But bying a BMW without adding anything extra will never happen. The M3 S+ with standard rims and colour is 58. 000 here, wich is 2-3. 000 more than a fully loaded Kona. We do love our taxes: D
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freddie carr
Alex, Does your warranty version still match this from 2017: Warranty and dirt roads. This New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any vehicle damage or malfunction directly or indirectly caused by, due to or resulting from normal wear or deterioration, abuse, misuse, negligence, accident, improper maintenance, operation, storage or transport, including, but not limited to, any of the following: Driving off-road, over uneven, rough, damaged or hazardous surfaces, including but not limited to, curbs, potholes, unfinishedroads, debris, or other obstacles, or in competition, racing or autocross or for any other purposes for which the vehicle is not designed; Im worried about the data TESLA keeps and the crazy CA lawers, if I buy Tesla, my little patch of dirt road to get to my house will come into playAsking as I respect your reviews---especially since this is your car this time and you are being honest with the little items that other reviewers either cover up or blow out of proportion.
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Alex, Does your warranty version still match this from 2017: Warranty and dirt roads. This New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any vehicle damage or malfunction directly or indirectly caused by, due to or resulting from normal wear or deterioration, abuse, misuse, negligence, accident, improper maintenance, operation, storage or transport, including, but not limited to, any of the following: Driving off-road, over uneven, rough, damaged or hazardous surfaces, including but not limited to, curbs, potholes, unfinishedroads, debris, or other obstacles, or in competition, racing or autocross or for any other purposes for which the vehicle is not designed; Im worried about the data TESLA keeps and the crazy CA lawers, if I buy Tesla, my little patch of dirt road to get to my house will come into playAsking as I respect your reviews---especially since this is your car this time and you are being honest with the little items that other reviewers either cover up or blow out of proportion.
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Dan Grassetti
Hello Alex. I thought the review was good but I also think that the comparison to the Kona didnt really make much sense. The Kona is a front drive small SUV that I would think would compete against similarly sized gasoline alternatives from Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc. The model 3 on the other hand is a direct competitor to a BMW 3 series. Its a sedan, not an SUV. Seems to me there has to be a paradigm shift here. Model 3 buyers arent (as best I can tell) looking to buy an electric car, rather they are looking to buy a high performance small sedan. This assertion seems to be borne out by the devastating effect the Model 3 has had on sales of similarly priced BMWs, Audis and Mercedes products. So, while the test was just fine, I think the idea that the same folks who might consider a Model 3 would be in the market for a Kona just falls flat. Would have made much more sense to compare the M3 to the Germans sedans it actually competes with.
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Hello Alex. I thought the review was good but I also think that the comparison to the Kona didnt really make much sense. The Kona is a front drive small SUV that I would think would compete against similarly sized gasoline alternatives from Toyota, Honda, Ford, etc. The model 3 on the other hand is a direct competitor to a BMW 3 series. Its a sedan, not an SUV. Seems to me there has to be a paradigm shift here. Model 3 buyers arent (as best I can tell) looking to buy an electric car, rather they are looking to buy a high performance small sedan. This assertion seems to be borne out by the devastating effect the Model 3 has had on sales of similarly priced BMWs, Audis and Mercedes products. So, while the test was just fine, I think the idea that the same folks who might consider a Model 3 would be in the market for a Kona just falls flat. Would have made much more sense to compare the M3 to the Germans sedans it actually competes with.
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Jaguar F-type
Why do tesla/EV reviewers never mention the absolute need for a house with a garage? This is the single biggest problem with EVs and it goes unmentioned. Home owners/renters whom even have a garage dont necessarily have room in it for a vehicle, and apartment/condo dwellers home charging is simply not possible. City dwellers who would benefit most almost all need to street park. This is absolutely absurd that reviewers conveniently leave this out Home owners with no garage can get a permit for a EVSE, but only rarely and they cost more than a grand to install. Renters, apartment and city dwellers can ONLY charge at public charge stations, home charging is simply not an option. This means evs are completely out of the question for the largest groups of our population. This is teslas great rouse, evs will save the world. but only if you have a house with a garage. Simply not practicable for the masses, not by a very long shot
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Why do tesla/EV reviewers never mention the absolute need for a house with a garage? This is the single biggest problem with EVs and it goes unmentioned. Home owners/renters whom even have a garage dont necessarily have room in it for a vehicle, and apartment/condo dwellers home charging is simply not possible. City dwellers who would benefit most almost all need to street park. This is absolutely absurd that reviewers conveniently leave this out Home owners with no garage can get a permit for a EVSE, but only rarely and they cost more than a grand to install. Renters, apartment and city dwellers can ONLY charge at public charge stations, home charging is simply not an option. This means evs are completely out of the question for the largest groups of our population. This is teslas great rouse, evs will save the world. but only if you have a house with a garage. Simply not practicable for the masses, not by a very long shot
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Matt Clark
Not sure if the Model 3 is going to be that car for me or not (its the top candidate on the market so far, but Im a couple years away from a move, but I know Im done buying ICE cars. Im so tired of gas stations and all the fiddly maintenance on an engine with 1000+ parts, even though I make car wrenching one my main hobbies When you see the simplicity of an EV powertrain vs. ICE, think about the environmental benefits of skipping fossil fuels, and add in the convenience of charging at home, EVs sound absolutely wonderful to me. With Tesla it seems you trade a little bit of manufacturing efficiency and refinement for the very state of the art in batteries, motors, control electronics, and infotainment; the result is a package that isnt for everyone, but is compelling on merit in the marketplace.
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Not sure if the Model 3 is going to be that car for me or not (its the top candidate on the market so far, but Im a couple years away from a move, but I know Im done buying ICE cars. Im so tired of gas stations and all the fiddly maintenance on an engine with 1000+ parts, even though I make car wrenching one my main hobbies When you see the simplicity of an EV powertrain vs. ICE, think about the environmental benefits of skipping fossil fuels, and add in the convenience of charging at home, EVs sound absolutely wonderful to me. With Tesla it seems you trade a little bit of manufacturing efficiency and refinement for the very state of the art in batteries, motors, control electronics, and infotainment; the result is a package that isnt for everyone, but is compelling on merit in the marketplace.
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Joy Chung
see 2 parts of ur review and ur review is very good and on point. Tesla is silly where they disable all their option for their base model and they will unlock if u pay them. it look like ur head hit the roof when u seated and when u need to get out of the car u need to tilt ur head. with those glass everywhere I think Tesla will heat up fast in summer and colder in the winter. no remote starter so how u can warm ur car up in winter and A/C ur car in summer before u go? P. S.: also a little question about ur review (all review in the net. I wonder people never actually test the car with 4 people inside (1 person 45kg, so put 6 bag of rice (20 kg each) + 20 kg in the trunk) and see how the car work and if its really efficiency.
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see 2 parts of ur review and ur review is very good and on point. Tesla is silly where they disable all their option for their base model and they will unlock if u pay them. it look like ur head hit the roof when u seated and when u need to get out of the car u need to tilt ur head. with those glass everywhere I think Tesla will heat up fast in summer and colder in the winter. no remote starter so how u can warm ur car up in winter and A/C ur car in summer before u go? P. S.: also a little question about ur review (all review in the net. I wonder people never actually test the car with 4 people inside (1 person 45kg, so put 6 bag of rice (20 kg each) + 20 kg in the trunk) and see how the car work and if its really efficiency.
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