The NCAA Does Not Care About Student Athletes And Here's The Proof.
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Date: 2019-11-01
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writerbyfire
It's like our legal system says that because these people are students they aren't subject to the same legal protections as literally every other person in the United States. I don't understand how these coaches aren't being prosecuted for negligent homicide. If you were an employee or a consumer of a product or had any circumstance other than a collegiate athlete and you were subjected to the same treatment (up to and including death) your abuser would be going to prison. If a gym trainer compels a person to workout in conditions that cause death from heat stroke that trainer would face criminal charges. If you give two people baseball bats and tell them to beat each other in the head and you'll give them 100, 000 (scholarship) and one of them dies, you'd be charged as an accessory to murder. Under literally any other circumstances these coaches would be going to prison but because they're student athletes there are no protections and no consequences. There absolutely needs to be state/federal laws and criminal consequences for individuals and institutions that engage in such practices and cover ups. If there was anything wrong with this video, it was the emphasis on the NCAA's responsibility in this rather than the State's.
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It's like our legal system says that because these people are students they aren't subject to the same legal protections as literally every other person in the United States. I don't understand how these coaches aren't being prosecuted for negligent homicide. If you were an employee or a consumer of a product or had any circumstance other than a collegiate athlete and you were subjected to the same treatment (up to and including death) your abuser would be going to prison. If a gym trainer compels a person to workout in conditions that cause death from heat stroke that trainer would face criminal charges. If you give two people baseball bats and tell them to beat each other in the head and you'll give them 100, 000 (scholarship) and one of them dies, you'd be charged as an accessory to murder. Under literally any other circumstances these coaches would be going to prison but because they're student athletes there are no protections and no consequences. There absolutely needs to be state/federal laws and criminal consequences for individuals and institutions that engage in such practices and cover ups. If there was anything wrong with this video, it was the emphasis on the NCAA's responsibility in this rather than the State's.
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jodnecroman
When i was in school, i often argued that school sponsored organized student athletics (which tended to be the most highly funded thing on campus, robbing many other worthwhile and educational programs) really had no place in an educational setting. Literally most of the athletes I attended school with were only there to play the game. They honestly did not care about their grades. None went on to play in college, if they even went to college. And sure enough, none went pro. While I played rec league soccer, and had a great time doing so, I never went out of my school's soccer team because it wasn't what I went to school for. Giving them an academic scholarship is a garbage excuse to fill a roster and generate revenue that the players will have ultimately no benefit from. tl; dr Scholastically controlled sports are ultimately pointless and their funding could be put to better use.
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When i was in school, i often argued that school sponsored organized student athletics (which tended to be the most highly funded thing on campus, robbing many other worthwhile and educational programs) really had no place in an educational setting. Literally most of the athletes I attended school with were only there to play the game. They honestly did not care about their grades. None went on to play in college, if they even went to college. And sure enough, none went pro. While I played rec league soccer, and had a great time doing so, I never went out of my school's soccer team because it wasn't what I went to school for. Giving them an academic scholarship is a garbage excuse to fill a roster and generate revenue that the players will have ultimately no benefit from. tl; dr Scholastically controlled sports are ultimately pointless and their funding could be put to better use.
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MrFreeman012
Yes. What doesnt kill you does make you stronger. What doesnt kill you makes you stronger. The Doesnt kill you parts the important part. Tough coaching undoubtedly produces strength, but it has to be survivable to do that. So, theres a balance between toughness and concern for safety. We shouldnt at all abandon the What doesnt kill you makes you stronger. philosophy, because, like I said, that saying has Doesnt kill you right in the middle of it. So, youve gotta oppose authoritarianism in coaching, but you also cant be too easy on your players. Its a very hard juggling act, though. Most likely, coaches need to be coached on how to coach. Is that a thing thats taught in colleges or trade schools? I dont think so, but Im not sure. It needs to be, though, for the sake of the athletes safety and performance.
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Yes. What doesnt kill you does make you stronger. What doesnt kill you makes you stronger. The Doesnt kill you parts the important part. Tough coaching undoubtedly produces strength, but it has to be survivable to do that. So, theres a balance between toughness and concern for safety. We shouldnt at all abandon the What doesnt kill you makes you stronger. philosophy, because, like I said, that saying has Doesnt kill you right in the middle of it. So, youve gotta oppose authoritarianism in coaching, but you also cant be too easy on your players. Its a very hard juggling act, though. Most likely, coaches need to be coached on how to coach. Is that a thing thats taught in colleges or trade schools? I dont think so, but Im not sure. It needs to be, though, for the sake of the athletes safety and performance.
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Ethan L
Dude, abusive coaches are not just prevalent in college. I played many sports in high school, but Football was the ones I put the most work into. Many many many football coaches, in my experience, are extremely abusive, if not physical most definitely verbal. I think it comes from the culture of the sport and nothing else. There is this stigma that encourages coaches to be violent and rageful in order to emulate what it's like on the feel. That same of adrenaline and fear you get when a coach is yelling and cursing at you are the same feelings that you're actually on the field and don't want to let everybody watching down. This feeling is extremely common in many sports in general, and only gets exacerbated when you move up to the collegiate division, simply because there is more on the line.
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Dude, abusive coaches are not just prevalent in college. I played many sports in high school, but Football was the ones I put the most work into. Many many many football coaches, in my experience, are extremely abusive, if not physical most definitely verbal. I think it comes from the culture of the sport and nothing else. There is this stigma that encourages coaches to be violent and rageful in order to emulate what it's like on the feel. That same of adrenaline and fear you get when a coach is yelling and cursing at you are the same feelings that you're actually on the field and don't want to let everybody watching down. This feeling is extremely common in many sports in general, and only gets exacerbated when you move up to the collegiate division, simply because there is more on the line.
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Be better HUMANS
. ahh organized sports. the ELITES ultimate weapon against a programmed slave society - did the emperors or lanista's of Ancient Rome care about the gladiators? Why would todays coaches? You can teach aggression, perseverance, cooperation & all of that through respect, clarity of thought, & focus of the mind. The MARTIAL ARTIST WAY-THE WAY OF STOICISM. Most men who treat other men like this are actually weak. Most coaches I have ever met or have seen act this way, were just men with anger, emotional, & or dominance issues. I feel sorry for this young mans family. Just wish our best warriors weren't playing GAMES in stadiums. they should be on the front line leading marches ERADICATING CORRUPTION & INJUSTICES. but why do that when you can make 14mill a yr. & marry a model.
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. ahh organized sports. the ELITES ultimate weapon against a programmed slave society - did the emperors or lanista's of Ancient Rome care about the gladiators? Why would todays coaches? You can teach aggression, perseverance, cooperation & all of that through respect, clarity of thought, & focus of the mind. The MARTIAL ARTIST WAY-THE WAY OF STOICISM. Most men who treat other men like this are actually weak. Most coaches I have ever met or have seen act this way, were just men with anger, emotional, & or dominance issues. I feel sorry for this young mans family. Just wish our best warriors weren't playing GAMES in stadiums. they should be on the front line leading marches ERADICATING CORRUPTION & INJUSTICES. but why do that when you can make 14mill a yr. & marry a model.
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Tanner Wilson
Could a model like some of the European Hockey & Soccer Academies and Leagues be a model? Following hockey heavily, they have some of their top players getting opportunities to make their pro debuts as young as 16-17 years old European Soccer uses this model, remember someone like Christian Pulisic who made his Professional debut with Germany Bundesliga's Bourissa Dortmund You also see many top Hockey Players (especially from the Nordic Region) get opportunities to play in top hockey leagues like the Swedish Hockey League and the Finnish Liiga. They also have academies to educate their kids when they playing and practicing. When they is a chance, it would be great to take a look at this model and if it could it work in the USA.
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Could a model like some of the European Hockey & Soccer Academies and Leagues be a model? Following hockey heavily, they have some of their top players getting opportunities to make their pro debuts as young as 16-17 years old European Soccer uses this model, remember someone like Christian Pulisic who made his Professional debut with Germany Bundesliga's Bourissa Dortmund You also see many top Hockey Players (especially from the Nordic Region) get opportunities to play in top hockey leagues like the Swedish Hockey League and the Finnish Liiga. They also have academies to educate their kids when they playing and practicing. When they is a chance, it would be great to take a look at this model and if it could it work in the USA.
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Tanbo Pansies
I dont think people fully comprehend how abusive college coaches can be and how wrongly defensive fans can be towards them Until you are forced to train for 4-6 hours a day on top of your 14+ credit workload, while having to hold a job in order to feed yourself because god forbid the school make room in its budget for a decently priced meal plan (which the majority of athletes also have to pay for, who would ever need a social life or even family relationships for that matter Its laughable that its even an argument to not properly compensate student athletes for the work that THEY put in that makes the schools so god damn reputable
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I dont think people fully comprehend how abusive college coaches can be and how wrongly defensive fans can be towards them Until you are forced to train for 4-6 hours a day on top of your 14+ credit workload, while having to hold a job in order to feed yourself because god forbid the school make room in its budget for a decently priced meal plan (which the majority of athletes also have to pay for, who would ever need a social life or even family relationships for that matter Its laughable that its even an argument to not properly compensate student athletes for the work that THEY put in that makes the schools so god damn reputable
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Jean Mahoney
at one of the schools i went to the locker rooms are side by side with the coach office between them however, there was a door into just the girls locker room that could only be locked from the office so the girls would stand by the door during changing time. before i moved to the school a male coach had been caught massaging some of the girls and was fired, because they couldn't just switch the room (urinals and piping had to be redone, feminine product dispensers moved and reinstalled, the door couldn't just be removed or its just a hole at that point, ect) they only hired female coaches and took the key from the door.
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at one of the schools i went to the locker rooms are side by side with the coach office between them however, there was a door into just the girls locker room that could only be locked from the office so the girls would stand by the door during changing time. before i moved to the school a male coach had been caught massaging some of the girls and was fired, because they couldn't just switch the room (urinals and piping had to be redone, feminine product dispensers moved and reinstalled, the door couldn't just be removed or its just a hole at that point, ect) they only hired female coaches and took the key from the door.
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Trevor Vaught
Theres a difference between tough love and abuse like physical abuse is unacceptable but most athletes much like soldiers are alpha male types and putting that person down challenges them to get better and prove that person wrong Negligence is a different subject and a whole other beastIm not saying that students arent getting abused Im just saying people are getting softer and more sensitive when it comes to verbal Also college athletes shouldnt get paid to play (they are saving thousands of dollars on education cost to play sports seem like a good trade off to me its better than being in the military for college)
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Theres a difference between tough love and abuse like physical abuse is unacceptable but most athletes much like soldiers are alpha male types and putting that person down challenges them to get better and prove that person wrong Negligence is a different subject and a whole other beastIm not saying that students arent getting abused Im just saying people are getting softer and more sensitive when it comes to verbal Also college athletes shouldnt get paid to play (they are saving thousands of dollars on education cost to play sports seem like a good trade off to me its better than being in the military for college)
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