The NYT Sarah Jeong Scandal & Double Standard Controversy, Zimbabwe Chaos, & More
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Date: 2019-11-01
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SpaceWalkTraveller
Sarah is a real genius. Sarah can you explain who invented, the car, plane, TV, radio, Trains, Telescopes, microscopes, GPS, CPU, combustion engine, microscopes, laser, computer, internet, phone, western medicine, printing press, not to mention democracy and if you read your science history books just about everything in the the last 500 years not to mention longitude. Sarah you need to read a bit of history and actually understand what the West has achieved. Sarah can you explain why Asian's come to the west to get educated but westerners don't go to Asia to get educated. Sarah have you been to Europe and seen our exquisite art. There are encyclopedia full of the contributions and what the west has invented. Why has the most advanced country in Asia, Japan, modeled their country on the west. Remember Japan was a backward country up until the 1850's when an American opened it up to trade. Don't you love using the internet, guess who invented that? Yes the white man. Yes, come and live with us benefit from our education and inventions and then slag us off. What is the international language Sarah, yes English and who invented English Sarah. Sarah you make a sterling addition to the New York Slim full of extreme left wing hate, you should go and live in the North Korea it still has communism the last bastion of extreme left wing ideology. Hasn't Korea benefited so much from western technology and who risked their life for freedom in the Korean war, yes Sarah the white man, do you know your countries history. Yes I was in Seoul two weeks ago and guess what flag the South Koreans were flying next to theirs? The American? Sarah the next time you turn on the light remember it was a white man that discovered electricity. And how open is Korea to foreign people? The western countries are the most open look at how multi cultural America is. I saw none in Korea.
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Sarah is a real genius. Sarah can you explain who invented, the car, plane, TV, radio, Trains, Telescopes, microscopes, GPS, CPU, combustion engine, microscopes, laser, computer, internet, phone, western medicine, printing press, not to mention democracy and if you read your science history books just about everything in the the last 500 years not to mention longitude. Sarah you need to read a bit of history and actually understand what the West has achieved. Sarah can you explain why Asian's come to the west to get educated but westerners don't go to Asia to get educated. Sarah have you been to Europe and seen our exquisite art. There are encyclopedia full of the contributions and what the west has invented. Why has the most advanced country in Asia, Japan, modeled their country on the west. Remember Japan was a backward country up until the 1850's when an American opened it up to trade. Don't you love using the internet, guess who invented that? Yes the white man. Yes, come and live with us benefit from our education and inventions and then slag us off. What is the international language Sarah, yes English and who invented English Sarah. Sarah you make a sterling addition to the New York Slim full of extreme left wing hate, you should go and live in the North Korea it still has communism the last bastion of extreme left wing ideology. Hasn't Korea benefited so much from western technology and who risked their life for freedom in the Korean war, yes Sarah the white man, do you know your countries history. Yes I was in Seoul two weeks ago and guess what flag the South Koreans were flying next to theirs? The American? Sarah the next time you turn on the light remember it was a white man that discovered electricity. And how open is Korea to foreign people? The western countries are the most open look at how multi cultural America is. I saw none in Korea.
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Richard Parker
I have mix feelings about the New York Times story. Personally I believe her when she said it was an attempt at counter trolling, and I'm a white guy just for the record. HEAR ME OUT I'm aware that they're do exist people who are racist to white people, I agree that liberal sources don't do enough to call that out, but in the context of the situation I can understand her reaction. I can undetstand if you're getting hit with comments attacking your ethnicity that your first instinct would be to make some kind of sarcastic comment back or say something out of pure anger In the Heat of the Moment, which could regret saying later in life. Personally I think it's forgivable and I don't think she should lose her job over it. on the other hand, I have a feeling if she was white and saying this about anyone else under the exact same circumstances she wouldn't get a job at all and would be placed in internet jail forever. I suspect that no one would take the time to look at the context of the situation, ask how long ago it was, if it reflects who she is now or ask if she even ment it that situation. if she was white regardless of the context, she would have no future after that. so I guess my view is she should still be allowed to have her job and I'll let it go, just could we give the rest of us that kind of compassion instead of throwing us all into internet jail, have our lives ruined without any room for forgiveness? A lot of us post things online that at the moment we don't think about, we might not really mean, comes off sounding like we're saying something that we're not meaning it to, gets taken out of context or it doesn't reflect who we are now. Can we just stop demanding Perfection from people?
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I have mix feelings about the New York Times story. Personally I believe her when she said it was an attempt at counter trolling, and I'm a white guy just for the record. HEAR ME OUT I'm aware that they're do exist people who are racist to white people, I agree that liberal sources don't do enough to call that out, but in the context of the situation I can understand her reaction. I can undetstand if you're getting hit with comments attacking your ethnicity that your first instinct would be to make some kind of sarcastic comment back or say something out of pure anger In the Heat of the Moment, which could regret saying later in life. Personally I think it's forgivable and I don't think she should lose her job over it. on the other hand, I have a feeling if she was white and saying this about anyone else under the exact same circumstances she wouldn't get a job at all and would be placed in internet jail forever. I suspect that no one would take the time to look at the context of the situation, ask how long ago it was, if it reflects who she is now or ask if she even ment it that situation. if she was white regardless of the context, she would have no future after that. so I guess my view is she should still be allowed to have her job and I'll let it go, just could we give the rest of us that kind of compassion instead of throwing us all into internet jail, have our lives ruined without any room for forgiveness? A lot of us post things online that at the moment we don't think about, we might not really mean, comes off sounding like we're saying something that we're not meaning it to, gets taken out of context or it doesn't reflect who we are now. Can we just stop demanding Perfection from people?
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Alias Elysum
Phil, Mugabe didn't help achieve independence from the UK. There was a conflict called the Rhodesian Bush War which had a minority White government that fought against communist backed terrorist groups who sought to bring majority rule before the country was ready for it. The UK placed sanctions and tried to force majority rule. In response the White government changed the system to allow for more Black participation in government in what became Zimbabwe-Rhodesia. These Black representatives were moderates that were willing to work with Whites to eventually reach a point where all people would be able to vote after receiving a basic level of education. Given the economy was getting worse and the war kept dragging on, the government accepted the UK's demand for one man, one vote on the condition that violence during the election campaign would not be tolerated. Mugabe was one of the candidates in the election. He used violence and intimidation to coerce people to vote for him. Once he came to power, he turned his guns on the people who fought along side him against the Rhodesian government while the UK government patted itself on the back for ending colonialism in Zimbabwe.
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Phil, Mugabe didn't help achieve independence from the UK. There was a conflict called the Rhodesian Bush War which had a minority White government that fought against communist backed terrorist groups who sought to bring majority rule before the country was ready for it. The UK placed sanctions and tried to force majority rule. In response the White government changed the system to allow for more Black participation in government in what became Zimbabwe-Rhodesia. These Black representatives were moderates that were willing to work with Whites to eventually reach a point where all people would be able to vote after receiving a basic level of education. Given the economy was getting worse and the war kept dragging on, the government accepted the UK's demand for one man, one vote on the condition that violence during the election campaign would not be tolerated. Mugabe was one of the candidates in the election. He used violence and intimidation to coerce people to vote for him. Once he came to power, he turned his guns on the people who fought along side him against the Rhodesian government while the UK government patted itself on the back for ending colonialism in Zimbabwe.
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Paul Morris
We need to look at the Sarah Jeong case from a different angle. NYT have stood by her in defiance and I get that but there's far more to it than defying twitter mobs. Anyone who has seen Sarah's twitter timeline over several years will be shocked at the content. It's impossible to offer a diagnosis but it's almost as if she has a mental disorder. NYT are doing her a disservice by not revoking her hire. With millions waiting for her to make one wrong move, she is under intolerable pressure. NYT are wrong to put her through this particularly if she is mentally fragile. Furthermore, she has been highly critical of NYT on twitter and she has been searingly critical of a number of their journalists. That makes the situation uncomfortable in itself. She could be suicidal right now with wave after wave of critisism appearing every day plus new videos and articles. Doubtless, radio and TV networks have attempted to contact her for interviews too. I think we should be worried for this young lady. This story isn't over by any means.
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We need to look at the Sarah Jeong case from a different angle. NYT have stood by her in defiance and I get that but there's far more to it than defying twitter mobs. Anyone who has seen Sarah's twitter timeline over several years will be shocked at the content. It's impossible to offer a diagnosis but it's almost as if she has a mental disorder. NYT are doing her a disservice by not revoking her hire. With millions waiting for her to make one wrong move, she is under intolerable pressure. NYT are wrong to put her through this particularly if she is mentally fragile. Furthermore, she has been highly critical of NYT on twitter and she has been searingly critical of a number of their journalists. That makes the situation uncomfortable in itself. She could be suicidal right now with wave after wave of critisism appearing every day plus new videos and articles. Doubtless, radio and TV networks have attempted to contact her for interviews too. I think we should be worried for this young lady. This story isn't over by any means.
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Rei Reznor
She was mad and immature. I'm of European descent, but to my white friends, I have been told that I look Arab. My hair is black, my brows thick. But I tell my very Anglo looking friends, dude, my family arrived in the United States in the late 40s, naturally, escaping the war. When I hear yahoos like white nationalist talking about people of European descent, I laugh. My last name is german, my mom is half Scottish and chinese. I'm 6', 1, 52 inch shoulders. But still not white enough. But in my presence, the shit that comes out of some people's mouths. I can tell she was mad. I've had asian girlfriends and I have seen the shitard comments left in their online accounts. Whites are not racist for being white, but that's not the same as saying, they can't be racist. Sorry, I've been a victim. Had friends quitting jobs because of the toxic work environment. Sarah apologize and regrets stooping low. I've come close, but I've had friends. Sarah is reminder to never give the bigots satisfaction.
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She was mad and immature. I'm of European descent, but to my white friends, I have been told that I look Arab. My hair is black, my brows thick. But I tell my very Anglo looking friends, dude, my family arrived in the United States in the late 40s, naturally, escaping the war. When I hear yahoos like white nationalist talking about people of European descent, I laugh. My last name is german, my mom is half Scottish and chinese. I'm 6', 1, 52 inch shoulders. But still not white enough. But in my presence, the shit that comes out of some people's mouths. I can tell she was mad. I've had asian girlfriends and I have seen the shitard comments left in their online accounts. Whites are not racist for being white, but that's not the same as saying, they can't be racist. Sorry, I've been a victim. Had friends quitting jobs because of the toxic work environment. Sarah apologize and regrets stooping low. I've come close, but I've had friends. Sarah is reminder to never give the bigots satisfaction.
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Justin Faust
Socially, I can't agree that verbal attacks are equal against white people that they are against any other race. Its weird, I can never attack any person based on there race or any physical feature, but I cant hold a verbal attack against a white race in the same light that I hold against any other race. When there is such a disparity socially on how these different races are held in all forms of our social culture, to have a verbal disparity on what is said, just seems like the smallest of ways to create a bridge of equality in bringing us together. If other races are going to be judged on where they come from, in what they are more likely to do, in what people are afraid they MIGHT do, then being called out for being apart of a race that doesn't have to deal with that is just a pebble in the ocean of issues we have. Things need to change and that is all there is to it to bring equality around.
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Socially, I can't agree that verbal attacks are equal against white people that they are against any other race. Its weird, I can never attack any person based on there race or any physical feature, but I cant hold a verbal attack against a white race in the same light that I hold against any other race. When there is such a disparity socially on how these different races are held in all forms of our social culture, to have a verbal disparity on what is said, just seems like the smallest of ways to create a bridge of equality in bringing us together. If other races are going to be judged on where they come from, in what they are more likely to do, in what people are afraid they MIGHT do, then being called out for being apart of a race that doesn't have to deal with that is just a pebble in the ocean of issues we have. Things need to change and that is all there is to it to bring equality around.
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Christopher Gonzalez
I find it ridiculous to see this as anything other than a double standard. Whether it's because of the tweets in question or simply because the journalist is a woman, the fact that she gets slack and the only thing The New York Times says is we spoke to her and she said she said she was sorry is beyond dumb. 100% of the time context is everything and I'm tired of people suffering the consequences for dumb things they had said years ago and now have said statements hung over their heads out of context. This is how these situations should be treated, in a rational and respectful manner yet I still find myself torn. Why does she get slack when countless others were demonized and received ridiculous consequences for said actions? Either all of it is ok (in the sense that we can identity the issues in said statements and move on as individuals do grow) or not of it is. Smh
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I find it ridiculous to see this as anything other than a double standard. Whether it's because of the tweets in question or simply because the journalist is a woman, the fact that she gets slack and the only thing The New York Times says is we spoke to her and she said she said she was sorry is beyond dumb. 100% of the time context is everything and I'm tired of people suffering the consequences for dumb things they had said years ago and now have said statements hung over their heads out of context. This is how these situations should be treated, in a rational and respectful manner yet I still find myself torn. Why does she get slack when countless others were demonized and received ridiculous consequences for said actions? Either all of it is ok (in the sense that we can identity the issues in said statements and move on as individuals do grow) or not of it is. Smh
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My name is AlexanderY M. D. I am also a East Asian American age 28. I just would like to express our extreme outrage over Sarah Jeongs tweet. She has brought horrible shame to our hardworking, responsible, loyal and highly educated east Asian community in this great country. She didnt not, does not and will not ever speak for us, her pathologically twisted and sickening views are merely the representation of the symptoms of her despicable ill mind and dark soul. For her own welfare, we strongly believe she ought to get some professional help / treatment. We are also deeply feel sorry for her parents, who gave birth to such a low life. She also entirely ignored the fact that over 60% of the 2nd or 3rd generations East Asian American population is married to Caucasians.
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My name is AlexanderY M. D. I am also a East Asian American age 28. I just would like to express our extreme outrage over Sarah Jeongs tweet. She has brought horrible shame to our hardworking, responsible, loyal and highly educated east Asian community in this great country. She didnt not, does not and will not ever speak for us, her pathologically twisted and sickening views are merely the representation of the symptoms of her despicable ill mind and dark soul. For her own welfare, we strongly believe she ought to get some professional help / treatment. We are also deeply feel sorry for her parents, who gave birth to such a low life. She also entirely ignored the fact that over 60% of the 2nd or 3rd generations East Asian American population is married to Caucasians.
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Fabrissable
Thats immature response from Verge editor. If NYT says her blant racist statements were ok, because she was defending agains racist herself, then it doesnt make any sense, because then its just harassment giving birth to harassment. If her actions were justifiable, then it also works other way around and people would usually start throwing turds at eachother even more in selfdefence. Thats not the way anyone who speaks agains violence, racism and has more liberal leaning views should go, because following that you put yourself in worse position than people who just insult others and dont try to hide it behind some social justice barrier.
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Thats immature response from Verge editor. If NYT says her blant racist statements were ok, because she was defending agains racist herself, then it doesnt make any sense, because then its just harassment giving birth to harassment. If her actions were justifiable, then it also works other way around and people would usually start throwing turds at eachother even more in selfdefence. Thats not the way anyone who speaks agains violence, racism and has more liberal leaning views should go, because following that you put yourself in worse position than people who just insult others and dont try to hide it behind some social justice barrier.
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